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Review: a draft on reconstitution arithmetic, with objections

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a.salcedoTL3Regular22 Jan 2025#1

Review: a draft on reconstitution arithmetic, with objections Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did.

Nominating something for promotion into the documentation commons.

The topic in question keeps being re-asked, has a good marked solution, and contains a worked example that would be more useful on a page with a review date than buried in a reply. That is exactly the promotion criterion as written.

Objections welcome and genuinely wanted — the whole point of discussing promotions in public is that a bad promotion is harder to undo than a bad reply.

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sterile_fileTL3Regular24 Jan 2025#2

the opening post is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

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f.petrovTL2 Moderator26 Jan 2025#3

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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a.stephanopoulosTL3Regular27 Jan 2025#4

Review date disputes: if a maintained page's review date is approaching and it has not been updated, post a note so the maintainers notice.

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n.szaboTL2 Moderator28 Jan 2025 · edited#5

New maintainer recruitment: if a page's maintainer is inactive and updates are needed, suggesting a new maintainer here can help transition responsibility.

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v.milanoviTL3Regular29 Jan 2025#6
n.szabo, post #5: New maintainer recruitment: if a page's maintainer is inactive and updates are needed, suggesting a new maintainer here can help transition responsibility. Go to post

Promoted topic withdrawal: if a promoted topic becomes outdated or inaccurate and the maintainer does not update, requesting withdrawal is appropriate.

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y.ramosTL2 Moderator31 Jan 2025#7

Coming back to post #5, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

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integrator_draftTL31 Feb 2025#8
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s.solbergTL2 Moderator2 Feb 2025#9

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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v.klausenTL3Regular3 Feb 2025#10

Revision disputes: if you disagree with an edit a maintainer made to a page, discuss it here. The goal is accuracy and clarity, not authorship.

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r.zielinskiTL2 Moderator4 Feb 2025#11

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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peak_purityTL3Analytical chemist5 Feb 2025#12

On post #8 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

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no.silvaTL2 Moderator6 Feb 2025 · edited#13

Citation checking: if a maintained page cites a paper, the citation should match what the paper actually says. If you notice a mismatch, post it here.

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np_gilmoreTL3Nurse practitioner7 Feb 2025#14
r.zielinski, post #11: I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological. The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient. Go to post

Evidence synthesis requests: if you think a page should summarise the state of evidence on a question, and you think the information exists but is scattered, suggest how it could be brought together.

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r.mensaTL2 Moderator8 Feb 2025#15

post #14 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Promoted topic withdrawal: if a promoted topic becomes outdated or inaccurate and the maintainer does not update, requesting withdrawal is appropriate.

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m.dalgaardTL3Regular9 Feb 2025#16

Worth separating two things that post #12 runs together.

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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policy_readerTL2Regular11 Feb 2025#18
m.dalgaard, post #16: Worth separating two things that post #12 runs together. Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post

Citation checking: if a maintained page cites a paper, the citation should match what the paper actually says. If you notice a mismatch, post it here.

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e.adeyemiTL2 Moderator12 Feb 2025#19

Interdependencies: if updating one page requires updating related pages, posting that connection here helps the maintainers see the scope of work.

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g.tanakaTL3Regular13 Feb 2025#20

Multilingual versions: if a maintained page should exist in another language, suggesting it here with your willingness to help translate can make it happen.

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o.cousineauTL3Regular13 Feb 2025#21

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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s.ferreiraTL2 Moderator14 Feb 2025#22

post #21 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Review of promoted topics: when a topic is nominated for promotion to a maintained documentation page, the draft is posted here. Community review happens before promotion. Objections are welcome.

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m.ivaturiTL2 Moderator15 Feb 2025#23
m.dalgaard, post #16: Worth separating two things that post #12 runs together. Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post

I read post #21 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

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n.vogelTL216 Feb 2025#24
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h.karlsenTL2 Moderator17 Feb 2025#25

New maintainer recruitment: if a page's maintainer is inactive and updates are needed, suggesting a new maintainer here can help transition responsibility.

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d.barrosTL2 Moderator18 Feb 2025 · edited#26
m.ivaturi, post #23: I read post #21 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Review date disputes: if a maintained page's review date is approaching and it has not been updated, post a note so the maintainers notice. Go to post

Promoted topic withdrawal: if a promoted topic becomes outdated or inaccurate and the maintainer does not update, requesting withdrawal is appropriate.

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z.yildizTL2 Moderator19 Feb 2025#27

Coming back to post #25, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Citation checking: if a maintained page cites a paper, the citation should match what the paper actually says. If you notice a mismatch, post it here.

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c.adebayoTL2 Moderator19 Feb 2025#28

Picking up post #25: that is the part I would want checked first.

Fact-checking: if you see a factual claim in a maintained page that you have evidence contradicts, post the evidence here. The maintainer will review and correct if you are right.

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l.chevalierTL3Regular20 Feb 2025#29

Revision disputes: if you disagree with an edit a maintainer made to a page, discuss it here. The goal is accuracy and clarity, not authorship.

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m.adebayoTL2 Moderator21 Feb 2025#30
y.ramos, post #7: Coming back to post #5, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Evidence synthesis requests: if you think a page should summarise the state of evidence on a question, and you think the information exists but is scattered, suggest how it could be brought together. Go to post

Review date disputes: if a maintained page's review date is approaching and it has not been updated, post a note so the maintainers notice.

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