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Second pass at: Hoarding and why it makes a shortage worse posts 31–60

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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ms_hollowayTL4Mass spectrometrist10 Oct 2024#31

Picking up post #28: that is the part I would want checked first.

Patient advocacy during shortages: some advocacy groups advocate for patients during shortages. Knowing who they are and following their communication is useful.

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e.iyerTL210 Oct 2024#32
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owen.bradyTL4 Moderator10 Oct 2024#33
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Shortage predictions: regulators and suppliers issue shortage alerts before they become acute. Checking the regulatory website for shortages gives you advance notice.

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n.silvaTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024#34
TL4_Halvorsen, post #13: This follows post #10 rather than contradicting it. Compounding during shortages: some jurisdictions allow pharmacy compounding when a marketed product is in shortage. That permission is jurisdiction-specific and time-limited (usually for the duration of the shortage). Go to post

International supply chains: a shortage in one country does not mean shortage in another. That is why ordering from multiple suppliers before a shortage gets bad is prudent if you can.

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sourced_claimsTL3Regular10 Oct 2024#35
chromatogram, post #17: Resuming after a gap: after a gap of days or a few weeks, most people resume at the dose they were on when they stopped. Gaps of months might require retitration discussion with a clinician. Go to post

This follows post #32 rather than contradicting it.

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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r.bruunTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024#36

I read post #34 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Communication from suppliers: a supplier having supply problems usually communicates them. If a supplier goes silent, that is itself information.

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dr.villanuevaTL3Physician10 Oct 2024#37

Supply interruptions: official shortage notices are published by regulatory agencies. That is the correct primary source rather than pharmacy rumors or forum discussion.

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s.grimaldiTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024#38
endo_fellow_rk, post #11: Communication from suppliers: a supplier having supply problems usually communicates them. If a supplier goes silent, that is itself information. Go to post

Shortage predictions: regulators and suppliers issue shortage alerts before they become acute. Checking the regulatory website for shortages gives you advance notice.

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s.chowdhuryTL310 Oct 2024#39
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a.adeyemiTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024#40

Coming back to post #38, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Allocation and rationing: during severe shortages, suppliers might ration allocation to prescribers. Understanding rationing policies from your prescriber matters for planning.

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hana.satoTL4 Moderator10 Oct 2024#41
c.amankwah, post #21: Two things before anyone answers the substance. First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound. Go to post

Communication from suppliers: a supplier having supply problems usually communicates them. If a supplier goes silent, that is itself information.

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f.amankwahTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024 · edited#42
j.vogel, post #12: Compounding during shortages: some jurisdictions allow pharmacy compounding when a marketed product is in shortage. That permission is jurisdiction-specific and time-limited (usually for the duration of the shortage). Go to post

This follows post #39 rather than contradicting it.

International supply chains: a shortage in one country does not mean shortage in another. That is why ordering from multiple suppliers before a shortage gets bad is prudent if you can.

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e.piresTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024#43

Supply interruptions: official shortage notices are published by regulatory agencies. That is the correct primary source rather than pharmacy rumors or forum discussion.

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a.kowalskiTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024#44

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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blank_injectionTL2Analytical chemist10 Oct 2024#45
endo_fellow_rk, post #28: Compounding during shortages: some jurisdictions allow pharmacy compounding when a marketed product is in shortage. That permission is jurisdiction-specific and time-limited (usually for the duration of the shortage). Go to post

Coming back to post #43, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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h.bakkerTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024#46

Picking up post #43: that is the part I would want checked first.

Managing an unplanned gap: if a shortage causes a gap in treatment, the questions are how long the gap will be and how that affects your condition. Discussing with your clinician is prudent if the gap is weeks or longer.

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m.strand_rphTL3Pharmacist10 Oct 2024#47

Dose hold versus tapering: if a temporary shortage forces a gap, holding your dose and resuming when supply returns is different from gradually tapering. The two are different decisions.

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c.ostergaardTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024#48

Resuming after a gap: after a gap of days or a few weeks, most people resume at the dose they were on when they stopped. Gaps of months might require retitration discussion with a clinician.

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q.zhao_qaTL3Quality assurance10 Oct 2024#49

Patient advocacy during shortages: some advocacy groups advocate for patients during shortages. Knowing who they are and following their communication is useful.

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s.antonsenTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024#50
c.niemel, post #4: Picking up post #3: that is the part I would want checked first. Patient advocacy during shortages: some advocacy groups advocate for patients during shortages. Knowing who they are and following their communication is useful. Go to post

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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m.dumitruTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#51

post #50 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Compounding during shortages: some jurisdictions allow pharmacy compounding when a marketed product is in shortage. That permission is jurisdiction-specific and time-limited (usually for the duration of the shortage).

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ZieglerTL3Regular11 Oct 2024#52

Allocation and rationing: during severe shortages, suppliers might ration allocation to prescribers. Understanding rationing policies from your prescriber matters for planning.

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b.jansenTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#53

Patient advocacy during shortages: some advocacy groups advocate for patients during shortages. Knowing who they are and following their communication is useful.

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baseline_peakTL2Member11 Oct 2024#54
chromatogram, post #17: Resuming after a gap: after a gap of days or a few weeks, most people resume at the dose they were on when they stopped. Gaps of months might require retitration discussion with a clinician. Go to post

Coming back to post #52, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Supply interruptions: official shortage notices are published by regulatory agencies. That is the correct primary source rather than pharmacy rumors or forum discussion.

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b.nwosuTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024 · edited#55
hana.sato, post #41: Communication from suppliers: a supplier having supply problems usually communicates them. If a supplier goes silent, that is itself information. Go to post

International supply chains: a shortage in one country does not mean shortage in another. That is why ordering from multiple suppliers before a shortage gets bad is prudent if you can.

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m.stephanopoulosTL3Regular11 Oct 2024#56

Communication from suppliers: a supplier having supply problems usually communicates them. If a supplier goes silent, that is itself information.

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n.norgaardTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#57

This follows post #54 rather than contradicting it.

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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r.girardTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#58

I read post #56 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Shortage predictions: regulators and suppliers issue shortage alerts before they become acute. Checking the regulatory website for shortages gives you advance notice.

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c.silvaTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#59

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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a.zamoraTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#60

On post #56 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Dose hold versus tapering: if a temporary shortage forces a gap, holding your dose and resuming when supply returns is different from gradually tapering. The two are different decisions.

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