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Second pass at: Hoarding and why it makes a shortage worse posts 61–90

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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k.bettencourtTL2Member11 Oct 2024 · edited#61
m.strand_rph, post #47: Dose hold versus tapering: if a temporary shortage forces a gap, holding your dose and resuming when supply returns is different from gradually tapering. The two are different decisions. Go to post

Managing an unplanned gap: if a shortage causes a gap in treatment, the questions are how long the gap will be and how that affects your condition. Discussing with your clinician is prudent if the gap is weeks or longer.

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t.brandtTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#62

Resuming after a gap: after a gap of days or a few weeks, most people resume at the dose they were on when they stopped. Gaps of months might require retitration discussion with a clinician.

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LundqvistTL2Member11 Oct 2024#63

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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j.solbergTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#64

This follows post #61 rather than contradicting it.

International supply chains: a shortage in one country does not mean shortage in another. That is why ordering from multiple suppliers before a shortage gets bad is prudent if you can.

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septum_entryTL2Member11 Oct 2024#65
e.pires, post #43: Supply interruptions: official shortage notices are published by regulatory agencies. That is the correct primary source rather than pharmacy rumors or forum discussion. Go to post

On post #61 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Shortage predictions: regulators and suppliers issue shortage alerts before they become acute. Checking the regulatory website for shortages gives you advance notice.

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f.laurentTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#66

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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apostille_traceTL1Member11 Oct 2024#67

Dose hold versus tapering: if a temporary shortage forces a gap, holding your dose and resuming when supply returns is different from gradually tapering. The two are different decisions.

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c.falkTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#68
a.zamora, post #60: On post #56 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Dose hold versus tapering: if a temporary shortage forces a gap, holding your dose and resuming when supply returns is different from gradually tapering. The two are different decisions. Go to post

Managing an unplanned gap: if a shortage causes a gap in treatment, the questions are how long the gap will be and how that affects your condition. Discussing with your clinician is prudent if the gap is weeks or longer.

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DKwiatkowskiTL3Regular11 Oct 2024#69

Worth separating two things that post #65 runs together.

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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l.krastevTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024 · edited#70

post #69 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Communication from suppliers: a supplier having supply problems usually communicates them. If a supplier goes silent, that is itself information.

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b.jankowiakTL3Regular11 Oct 2024#71
Ziegler, post #52: Allocation and rationing: during severe shortages, suppliers might ration allocation to prescribers. Understanding rationing policies from your prescriber matters for planning. Go to post

Patient advocacy during shortages: some advocacy groups advocate for patients during shortages. Knowing who they are and following their communication is useful.

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p.dialloTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#72
DKwiatkowski, post #69: Worth separating two things that post #65 runs together. Two things before anyone answers the substance. First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound. Go to post

Supply interruptions: official shortage notices are published by regulatory agencies. That is the correct primary source rather than pharmacy rumors or forum discussion.

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y.mensahTL3Wiki editor11 Oct 2024#73

post #72 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Compounding during shortages: some jurisdictions allow pharmacy compounding when a marketed product is in shortage. That permission is jurisdiction-specific and time-limited (usually for the duration of the shortage).

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r.mensahTL2 Moderator11 Oct 2024#74

Worth separating two things that post #70 runs together.

Allocation and rationing: during severe shortages, suppliers might ration allocation to prescribers. Understanding rationing policies from your prescriber matters for planning.

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n.ekstromTL2Regular12 Oct 2024 · edited#75
Lundqvist, post #63: Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing. The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough. Go to post

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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c.castellanosTL2 Moderator12 Oct 2024#76

Coming back to post #74, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Resuming after a gap: after a gap of days or a few weeks, most people resume at the dose they were on when they stopped. Gaps of months might require retitration discussion with a clinician.

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steady_stateTL3Regular12 Oct 2024#77

post #76 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

International supply chains: a shortage in one country does not mean shortage in another. That is why ordering from multiple suppliers before a shortage gets bad is prudent if you can.

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t.karlsenTL2 Moderator12 Oct 2024#78

Communication from suppliers: a supplier having supply problems usually communicates them. If a supplier goes silent, that is itself information.

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e.dalgleishTL3Regular12 Oct 2024#79
r.mensah, post #74: Worth separating two things that post #70 runs together. Allocation and rationing: during severe shortages, suppliers might ration allocation to prescribers. Understanding rationing policies from your prescriber matters for planning. Go to post

This follows post #76 rather than contradicting it.

Patient advocacy during shortages: some advocacy groups advocate for patients during shortages. Knowing who they are and following their communication is useful.

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b.teixeiraTL2 Moderator12 Oct 2024#80

I read post #78 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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s.kravchenkoTL212 Oct 2024#81
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endpoint_lineTL3Regular12 Oct 2024#82
TL4_Halvorsen, post #22: post #21 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. Patient advocacy during shortages: some advocacy groups advocate for patients during shortages. Knowing who they are and following their communication is useful. Go to post

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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z.adeyemiTL2 Moderator12 Oct 2024#83

Supply interruptions: official shortage notices are published by regulatory agencies. That is the correct primary source rather than pharmacy rumors or forum discussion.

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RidgewayTL3Regular12 Oct 2024#84

post #83 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Compounding during shortages: some jurisdictions allow pharmacy compounding when a marketed product is in shortage. That permission is jurisdiction-specific and time-limited (usually for the duration of the shortage).

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i.grimaldiTL2 Moderator12 Oct 2024#85

I read post #83 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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erratum_fileTL3Regular12 Oct 2024#86
h.lindqvist, post #14: I read post #12 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Allocation and rationing: during severe shortages, suppliers might ration allocation to prescribers. Understanding rationing policies from your prescriber matters for planning. Go to post

This follows post #83 rather than contradicting it.

Allocation and rationing: during severe shortages, suppliers might ration allocation to prescribers. Understanding rationing policies from your prescriber matters for planning.

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h.jansenTL2 Moderator12 Oct 2024 · edited#87

Dose hold versus tapering: if a temporary shortage forces a gap, holding your dose and resuming when supply returns is different from gradually tapering. The two are different decisions.

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GEldridgeTL3Regular12 Oct 2024#88

Managing an unplanned gap: if a shortage causes a gap in treatment, the questions are how long the gap will be and how that affects your condition. Discussing with your clinician is prudent if the gap is weeks or longer.

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g.verhoevenTL2 Moderator12 Oct 2024#89

Resuming after a gap: after a gap of days or a few weeks, most people resume at the dose they were on when they stopped. Gaps of months might require retitration discussion with a clinician.

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ZieglerTL312 Oct 2024#90