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Second pass at: Retatrutide dose escalation in the published trials posts 121–126

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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m.almeidaTL2 Moderator24 Jul 2024#121

post #120 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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k.brandl_deTL3Translator · DE24 Jul 2024#122
two_year_line, post #10: Picking up post #7: that is the part I would want checked first. Triple agonism: is the effect additive, synergistic, or neither? A phase 2 comparison of tirzepatide (dual) to retatrutide (triple) would answer that question. The published data does not include such a direct comparison. Go to post

Dose escalation in the published trials: the protocols started at lower doses and escalated by defined steps. The step sizes are documented and they may or may not match what someone self-prescribing would choose.

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v.bruunTL2 Moderator24 Jul 2024#123
n.norgaard, post #51: This follows post #48 rather than contradicting it. For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use. Go to post

Why this subcategory is more cautious than elsewhere: retatrutide is investigational, phase 3 is ongoing, and the heart-rate signal in phase 2 is not negligible. Caution is proportionate to the evidence status.

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d.bramleyTL3Regular24 Jul 2024#124

Mass and identity: a report on retatrutide should state the mass detected by LC-MS, not assume a theoretical mass. The theoretical mass is not published in peer-reviewed literature for retatrutide at present.

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r.lundgrenTL2 Moderator24 Jul 2024#125

The phase 2 obesity paper reported dose-dependent weight reduction of a magnitude that attracted attention. It also reported dose-dependent heart-rate increases. The heart-rate signal is the reason phase 3 exists rather than something assumed negligible based on phase 2.

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d.moreauTL2Regular24 Jul 2024#126

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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