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Training through a dose escalation week

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KAnderssonTL3Regular15 Nov 2024#1

Training through a dose escalation week — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable.

Maintenance rather than loss, which is the part of this that almost nobody writes about.

I have been at roughly the same weight for 5 months. The interesting questions are all different from the ones I had at the start, and the documentation here is much thinner on this phase.

I would like to compare notes with people who are further along, and I would like to know what the published evidence says about this phase specifically rather than by extrapolation.

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j.falkTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024 · edited#2

This follows the opening post rather than contradicting it.

Frequency: three sessions per week of full-body training is easier to maintain than higher frequencies on an energy deficit. Consistency beats intensity when recovery capacity is limited.

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y.mensahTL3Wiki editor18 Nov 2024#3

Worth separating two things that the opening post runs together.

Maintenance is the goal: preserving lean mass and strength during weight loss is the goal of resistance training in this context, not building new muscle. That goal is usually achievable with consistent, moderate training.

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h.espinozaTL2 Moderator19 Nov 2024#4
y.mensah, post #3: Worth separating two things that the opening post runs together. Maintenance is the goal: preserving lean mass and strength during weight loss is the goal of resistance training in this context, not building new muscle. That goal is usually achievable with consistent, moderate training. Go to post

Recovery: heavier training on a energy deficit and on a compound that slows gastric emptying requires attention to recovery (sleep, nutrition, stress). Recovery capacity declines with deficit, so training volume might need adjustment.

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slow_titratorTL2Regular20 Nov 2024#5

Coming back to post #3, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Deload weeks: periodic weeks (every 4 to 8 weeks) with reduced volume and intensity can help with recovery and sometimes reveal strength gains that got obscured by fatigue.

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