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A rising related-substance total over six months: degradation or method drift?

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p.boatengTL2 Moderator21 Aug 2024#1

Asking directly, because I could not find a straight answer: A rising related-substance total over six months: degradation or method drift?

Posting the method first, because I know what the first three replies will otherwise be.

  • Column: C18, 3.0 x 150 mm, 2.6 um
  • Mobile phase: 0.1% TFA in water / 0.1% TFA in acetonitrile
  • Gradient: 13% to 70% organic over 21 minutes
  • Detection: 280 nm
  • Injection: 5 uL
  • Sample: tirzepatide, reconstituted to 1.0 mg/mL, injected within an hour

The main peak integrates at 96.9% of total area. There is a small feature on the trailing edge that I cannot decide is a shoulder or a baseline artefact, and that is what I am actually asking about.

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DKwiatkowskiTL3Regular22 Aug 2024#2

Coming back to the opening post, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Acetate content: counter-ion content. Trifluoroacetate or acetate from the salt form of the peptide. Affects mass calculations and should be stated on a complete certificate.

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a.vestergaardTL2 Moderator23 Aug 2024#3
p.boateng, post #1: Asking directly, because I could not find a straight answer: A rising related-substance total over six months: degradation or method drift? Posting the method first, because I know what the first three replies will otherwise be. Column: C18, 3.0 x 150 mm, 2.6 um Mobile phase: 0.1% TFA in water / 0.1% TFA in acetonitrile Gradient: 13% to… Go to post

Related substances: compounds chemically related to the target peptide but not the target peptide itself. The standard method separates them and reports them as area percent. How related they can be before they exceed specification is a regulatory question.

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glossary_deskTL3Regular23 Aug 2024#4

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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v.stanescuTL2 Moderator24 Aug 2024 · edited#5

This follows post #2 rather than contradicting it.

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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n.marsdenTL124 Aug 2024#6
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e.nilsenTL2 Moderator25 Aug 2024#7
a.vestergaard, post #3: Related substances: compounds chemically related to the target peptide but not the target peptide itself. The standard method separates them and reports them as area percent. How related they can be before they exceed specification is a regulatory question. Go to post

Incomplete deprotection: mass higher by the protecting group mass. Usually markedly later eluting. A synthesis artifact from incomplete removal of protecting groups.

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aliquot_lineTL3Regular25 Aug 2024#8

Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

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a.teixeiraTL2 Moderator26 Aug 2024#9

Picking up post #6: that is the part I would want checked first.

Oxidation at methionine and tryptophan: adds 16 per oxygen. Usually elutes earlier. Oxidation is common in storage, especially if the solution is exposed to light or if antioxidants are not present.

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fr.translation_moTL2Translator · FR26 Aug 2024#10

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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m.silvaTL2 Moderator27 Aug 2024#11

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

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c.vermeulenTL2 Moderator27 Aug 2024#12

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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j.nwosuTL2 Moderator28 Aug 2024#13
DKwiatkowski, post #2: Coming back to the opening post, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Acetate content: counter-ion content. Trifluoroacetate or acetate from the salt form of the peptide. Affects mass calculations and should be stated on a complete certificate. Go to post

Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis.

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b.petrovTL2 Moderator28 Aug 2024#14
j.nwosu, post #13: Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis. Go to post

Picking up post #11: that is the part I would want checked first.

Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage.

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ca.haddadTL2 Moderator28 Aug 2024#15

Worth separating two things that post #11 runs together.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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v.klausenTL3Regular29 Aug 2024 · edited#16

Disulfide formation: if a peptide contains cysteine, it can form disulfide bonds with itself or with other molecules. Under oxidising conditions multiple species appear. Reducing conditions (like DTT) convert them back.

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j.teixeiraTL2 Moderator29 Aug 2024#17
p.boateng, post #1: Asking directly, because I could not find a straight answer: A rising related-substance total over six months: degradation or method drift? Posting the method first, because I know what the first three replies will otherwise be. Column: C18, 3.0 x 150 mm, 2.6 um Mobile phase: 0.1% TFA in water / 0.1% TFA in acetonitrile Gradient: 13% to… Go to post

Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method.

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GDashwoodTL3Regular30 Aug 2024#18

Incomplete deprotection: mass higher by the protecting group mass. Usually markedly later eluting. A synthesis artifact from incomplete removal of protecting groups.

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n.szaboTL2 Moderator30 Aug 2024 · edited#19

On post #15 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Acetate content: counter-ion content. Trifluoroacetate or acetate from the salt form of the peptide. Affects mass calculations and should be stated on a complete certificate.

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OkaforTL3Regular30 Aug 2024#20
n.marsden, post #6: I read post #4 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated. Go to post

post #19 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Residual solvents: traces of solvents used in purification. These are usually tested by gas chromatography, not by HPLC. A specification for residual solvents should be stated separately from the purity.

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s.rasmussenTL2 Moderator31 Aug 2024 · edited#21

post #20 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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f.wojcikTL2 Moderator31 Aug 2024#22

Related substances: compounds chemically related to the target peptide but not the target peptide itself. The standard method separates them and reports them as area percent. How related they can be before they exceed specification is a regulatory question.

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z.yildizTL2 Moderator31 Aug 2024#23
p.boateng, post #1: Asking directly, because I could not find a straight answer: A rising related-substance total over six months: degradation or method drift? Posting the method first, because I know what the first three replies will otherwise be. Column: C18, 3.0 x 150 mm, 2.6 um Mobile phase: 0.1% TFA in water / 0.1% TFA in acetonitrile Gradient: 13% to… Go to post

Disulfide formation: if a peptide contains cysteine, it can form disulfide bonds with itself or with other molecules. Under oxidising conditions multiple species appear. Reducing conditions (like DTT) convert them back.

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v.fontaineTL2 Moderator1 Sep 2024#24

I read post #22 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method.

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o.cousineauTL3Regular1 Sep 2024#25

Oxidation at methionine and tryptophan: adds 16 per oxygen. Usually elutes earlier. Oxidation is common in storage, especially if the solution is exposed to light or if antioxidants are not present.

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n.vogelTL2 Moderator2 Sep 2024#26

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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e.okaforTL2 Moderator2 Sep 2024#27
glossary_desk, post #4: Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing. The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough. Go to post

Picking up post #24: that is the part I would want checked first.

Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

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l.trevinoTL2 Moderator2 Sep 2024#28

Coming back to post #26, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated.

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z.okonkwoTL2 Moderator3 Sep 2024#29

Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage.

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system_suitabilityTL3Analytical chemist3 Sep 2024#30

Worth separating two things that post #26 runs together.

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

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