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Chronic kidney disease and the FLOW result posts 31–39

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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o.abrahamsenTL3Regular20 Aug 2024#31
new_here_2026, post #21: This follows post #18 rather than contradicting it. Chronic kidney disease: compounds in this class have renal benefit in people with kidney disease. The benefit appears to be additive to other renal-protective agents, not a replacement for them. Go to post

Chronic kidney disease: compounds in this class have renal benefit in people with kidney disease. The benefit appears to be additive to other renal-protective agents, not a replacement for them.

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k.adeyemiTL2 Moderator21 Aug 2024#32

Hepatic steatosis and MASH: a phase 2 trial in semaglutide for steatohepatitis showed resolution was more frequent on treatment. Histological resolution is a surrogate for long-term clinical outcomes like cirrhosis.

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CSagredoTL3Regular21 Aug 2024#33

PCOS and metabolic overlap: polycystic ovary syndrome has metabolic overlap with obesity and insulin resistance. Data on compounds in this class in PCOS specifically is thin; most discussion is by mechanism.

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r.novakTL2 Moderator21 Aug 2024#34

This follows post #31 rather than contradicting it.

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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crossover_entryTL3Regular22 Aug 2024 · edited#35
new_here_2026, post #21: This follows post #18 rather than contradicting it. Chronic kidney disease: compounds in this class have renal benefit in people with kidney disease. The benefit appears to be additive to other renal-protective agents, not a replacement for them. Go to post

On post #31 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Interactions between comorbidities: diabetes and kidney disease together change the risk calculation for hypoglycemia and for medication clearance. They are not independent variables.

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br.wikstromTL2 Moderator22 Aug 2024#36

Multiple comorbidities: a person with diabetes, kidney disease, and cardiovascular disease is outside the studied populations in most trials. Extrapolating to that person requires reasoning from the individual component trials and mechanisms.

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e.kjeldsenTL2Member22 Aug 2024#37

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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p.lindqvistTL2 Moderator23 Aug 2024#38

Obstructive sleep apnoea: SURMOUNT-OSA used an objective endpoint, the apnoea-hypopnoea index. Reduction was substantial. Whether the benefit is weight loss or a direct drug effect is not resolved by the trial.

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BGiordanoTL2Member23 Aug 2024#39
crossover_entry, post #35: On post #31 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Interactions between comorbidities: diabetes and kidney disease together change the risk calculation for hypoglycemia and for medication clearance. They are not independent variables. Go to post

Type 2 diabetes: the population with the largest evidence base for these compounds. The SURPASS and SUSTAIN programmes established glycaemic benefit. The renal and cardiovascular benefit evidence is separate from the glycaemic benefit evidence.

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