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Coming back to: A community side-effect dataset, with its response rate and biases posts 61–90

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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ne.laurentTL2 Moderator6 May 2026 · edited#61

Limitations of datasets: all community-collected data has limitations. The population is self-selected (people in this community are not representative of all people using these compounds). Reporting bias is real (remarkable outcomes get reported; mundane outcomes do not).

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n.bridgewaterTL2Member8 May 2026#62

Combining data from different sources: datasets from this site are not directly comparable to published trials because the populations are different. They are worth reading separately, not merged together.

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s.lundgrenTL2 Moderator10 May 2026#63
e.nilsen, post #53: Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post

post #62 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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v.milanoviTL312 May 2026#64
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n.chowdhuryTL2 Moderator14 May 2026#65

Privacy: if contributing data, only share data you are comfortable making permanent and public. Once posted, data is persistent.

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ambient_draftTL3Regular16 May 2026#66
n.achebe, post #27: I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological. The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient. Go to post

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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n.kirchnerTL2 Moderator18 May 2026#67
endo_fellow_rk, post #49: post #48 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit. Privacy: if contributing data, only share data you are comfortable making permanent and public. Once posted, data is persistent. Go to post

Temporal bias: older data in a dataset might reflect conditions (supplier, formulation, context) that have changed. Newer data is more current.

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integrator_traceTL2Member20 May 2026#68

Worth separating two things that post #64 runs together.

How to contribute: if you have longitudinal data you want to add, the format is simple: date, measurement, context. Contact the maintainer of the specific dataset.

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h.kimaniTL2 Moderator22 May 2026#69

Picking up post #66: that is the part I would want checked first.

Using data in discussions: datasets are useful as reference points when someone claims something unusual. "I have not seen that reported in the data" is different from "that is impossible", but data gives you something to say.

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a.schaefferTL2Member24 May 2026#70

Collection methods: ask how the data were collected. Longitudinal tracking over months is stronger than retrospective recall. Prospective measurement (done while experiencing something) is stronger than memory afterward.

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g.bakkenTL2 Moderator26 May 2026 · edited#71

Limitations of datasets: all community-collected data has limitations. The population is self-selected (people in this community are not representative of all people using these compounds). Reporting bias is real (remarkable outcomes get reported; mundane outcomes do not).

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t.nguyen_newTL1Member29 May 2026#72

Bias toward positive outcomes: datasets collected by members are biased toward people who found the compounds useful. People who did not respond do not return. People who had bad outcomes might have left the community.

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s.lindqvistTL2 Moderator31 May 2026#73
sa.rasmussen, post #44: How to contribute: if you have longitudinal data you want to add, the format is simple: date, measurement, context. Contact the maintainer of the specific dataset. Go to post

Combining data from different sources: datasets from this site are not directly comparable to published trials because the populations are different. They are worth reading separately, not merged together.

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sterile_tableTL3Regular2 Jun 2026#74

Picking up post #71: that is the part I would want checked first.

Reproducibility: if sharing data, include enough context (compound, dose, timeframe, method) that someone reading it understands what it represents.

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j.marchettiTL2 Moderator4 Jun 2026#75

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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figure_reviewTL2Member6 Jun 2026#76

Temporal bias: older data in a dataset might reflect conditions (supplier, formulation, context) that have changed. Newer data is more current.

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a.amankwahTL2 Moderator8 Jun 2026#77
l.krastev, post #55: I read post #53 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Community-collected datasets: some members have compiled datasets from their own experience and shared them. They are self-reported, unblinded, and therefore limited as evidence. But they show real patterns that people experience. Go to post

I read post #75 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Reproducibility: if sharing data, include enough context (compound, dose, timeframe, method) that someone reading it understands what it represents.

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r.marsdenTL3Regular10 Jun 2026#78
Ziegler, post #38: Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up. Go to post

This follows post #75 rather than contradicting it.

Privacy: if contributing data, only share data you are comfortable making permanent and public. Once posted, data is persistent.

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m.yildizTL2 Moderator12 Jun 2026#79

Combining data from different sources: datasets from this site are not directly comparable to published trials because the populations are different. They are worth reading separately, not merged together.

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lyophil_marginTL3Regular14 Jun 2026#80
Nicolaides, post #58: Privacy: if contributing data, only share data you are comfortable making permanent and public. Once posted, data is persistent. Go to post

post #79 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Bias toward positive outcomes: datasets collected by members are biased toward people who found the compounds useful. People who did not respond do not return. People who had bad outcomes might have left the community.

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IsaksenTL3Regular16 Jun 2026#81
h.eriksen, post #9: Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up. Go to post

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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r.coelhoTL2 Moderator18 Jun 2026#82
t.nardone, post #28: Community-collected datasets: some members have compiled datasets from their own experience and shared them. They are self-reported, unblinded, and therefore limited as evidence. But they show real patterns that people experience. Go to post

On post #78 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Community-collected datasets: some members have compiled datasets from their own experience and shared them. They are self-reported, unblinded, and therefore limited as evidence. But they show real patterns that people experience.

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bench_peakTL3Regular20 Jun 2026#83

Collection methods: ask how the data were collected. Longitudinal tracking over months is stronger than retrospective recall. Prospective measurement (done while experiencing something) is stronger than memory afterward.

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m.ndiayeTL2 Moderator22 Jun 2026#84

Limitations of datasets: all community-collected data has limitations. The population is self-selected (people in this community are not representative of all people using these compounds). Reporting bias is real (remarkable outcomes get reported; mundane outcomes do not).

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footnote_entryTL3Regular24 Jun 2026#85
h.frisk, post #19: I read post #17 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Combining data from different sources: datasets from this site are not directly comparable to published trials because the populations are different. They are worth reading separately, not merged together. Go to post

post #84 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

How to contribute: if you have longitudinal data you want to add, the format is simple: date, measurement, context. Contact the maintainer of the specific dataset.

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h.castellanosTL2 Moderator26 Jun 2026 · edited#86

Worth separating two things that post #82 runs together.

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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KStephanopoulosTL3Regular28 Jun 2026#87

Using data in discussions: datasets are useful as reference points when someone claims something unusual. "I have not seen that reported in the data" is different from "that is impossible", but data gives you something to say.

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s.vogelTL2 Moderator29 Jun 2026#88

How to contribute: if you have longitudinal data you want to add, the format is simple: date, measurement, context. Contact the maintainer of the specific dataset.

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BirkelandTL3Regular1 Jul 2026#89

post #88 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Collection methods: ask how the data were collected. Longitudinal tracking over months is stronger than retrospective recall. Prospective measurement (done while experiencing something) is stronger than memory afterward.

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p.fontaineTL2 Moderator3 Jul 2026#90
endo_fellow_rk, post #49: post #48 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit. Privacy: if contributing data, only share data you are comfortable making permanent and public. Once posted, data is persistent. Go to post

Limitations of datasets: all community-collected data has limitations. The population is self-selected (people in this community are not representative of all people using these compounds). Reporting bias is real (remarkable outcomes get reported; mundane outcomes do not).

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