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Comparators chosen for regulatory reasons rather than clinical ones

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ppm_errorTL3Analytical chemist9 May 2025#1

On the subject in the title: Comparators chosen for regulatory reasons rather than clinical ones Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Session topic: SURMOUNT-1 (N Engl J Med, 2022). Please read it before posting; the discussion is much better when everyone has.

The question I would like us to start with is what the trial set out to estimate, rather than what it found. Once that is on the table we can talk about whether the design could have answered it, and only then about the numbers.

Specific things I would like covered: the population and how far it generalises, how discontinuation was handled, whether the comparator was a fair one, and what the absolute rather than relative effect looks like.

I will summarise at the end and the summary will feed the relevant digest page.

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s.zamoraTL2 Moderator14 May 2025#2

Open-label design: unblinded trials admit expectation effects. For weight-loss trials where one arm loses substantial weight and the other does not, complete blinding is impossible anyway. The unblinded nature is a limitation worth noting.

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titration_diaryTL3Regular17 May 2025#3

post #2 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Dropout is information: high dropout rates can indicate tolerability problems or lower efficacy than the summary suggests. Where the analysis handled dropouts matters. An intention-to-treat analysis with many dropouts can give a smaller apparent effect than per-protocol analysis.

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