eGFR fluctuation and the creatinine denominator problem — the long version posts 31–48
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.
Biological variation: the person-to-person variation in a biomarker for a healthy person is larger than most people realize. Comparing your result to the reference interval is one thing; comparing your result today to your result from months ago is more sensitive to change.
This follows post #30 rather than contradicting it.
Time of day: some biomarkers vary across the day. Cortisol in the morning differs from cortisol in the evening. Comparing results from different times of day is comparing things that are not the same.
I read post #32 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
Fasting state: some lab tests require fasting; others do not. Lipids on a fasting draw differ from lipids on a fed draw. Always note whether the test was fasting when comparing results.
Picking up post #34: that is the part I would want checked first.
TSH and free hormones: TSH is a reasonable screening test but does not tell you about actual free hormone levels. If TSH is abnormal, free thyroid hormones confirm whether there is a real thyroid problem.
Reference intervals: constructed to contain the central 95% of a reference population, which means one in twenty healthy people falls outside one by definition. Add biological variation and analytical imprecision and the base rate of a meaningless flag is substantial.
Worth separating two things that post #36 runs together.
Analytical imprecision: any measurement has an error margin. A small difference in consecutive tests is usually measurement noise, not a real change. Knowing the imprecision helps distinguish noise from signal.
Worth separating two things that post #37 runs together.
HbA1c and glucose: HbA1c reflects average glucose over months; a spot glucose measurement reflects the moment. Trending glucose downward while HbA1c stays flat is a different picture than glucose going up with HbA1c.
post #41 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.
Time of day: some biomarkers vary across the day. Cortisol in the morning differs from cortisol in the evening. Comparing results from different times of day is comparing things that are not the same.
Two things before anyone answers the substance.
First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.
Lipid panel interpretation: total, LDL, HDL, triglycerides all on one panel. Reading them together is more informative than reading one value in isolation. An elevated triglyceride with low HDL is different from triglyceride elevation alone.
On post #41 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Reference intervals: constructed to contain the central 95% of a reference population, which means one in twenty healthy people falls outside one by definition. Add biological variation and analytical imprecision and the base rate of a meaningless flag is substantial.
Biological variation: the person-to-person variation in a biomarker for a healthy person is larger than most people realize. Comparing your result to the reference interval is one thing; comparing your result today to your result from months ago is more sensitive to change.
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