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Oxidation pathways for methionine and tryptophan

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g.valckenaereTL3Regular24 Dec 2024#1

Posting this under the heading it deserves: Oxidation pathways for methionine and tryptophan Everything below is what sits behind that.

Working through the identity arithmetic and I would like it checked.

retatrutide has a monoisotopic mass close to 4731.3 Da. On an electrospray instrument I would expect to see the multiply charged series rather than the intact singly charged ion, so for the doubly charged species I calculate (4731.3 + 2 x 1.00728) / 2, and for the triply charged the analogous expression.

The observed values in the report sit within a few ppm of those. My question is what that actually establishes, because I have seen people treat a mass match as a purity result and I do not think it is one.

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q.zhao_qaTL3Quality assurance24 Dec 2024 · edited#2

On the opening post — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis.

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z.szaboTL2 Moderator25 Dec 2024#9

post #8 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Incomplete deprotection: mass higher by the protecting group mass. Usually markedly later eluting. A synthesis artifact from incomplete removal of protecting groups.

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c.marchettiTL2 Moderator26 Dec 2024#13

Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage.

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v.klausenTL3Regular27 Dec 2024 · edited#20
i.lehtinen, post #3: Picking up post #2: that is the part I would want checked first. Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method. Go to post

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

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g.tammTL2 Moderator28 Dec 2024#33
unit_conversion, post #4: Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated. Go to post

Coming back to post #31, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method.

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buffer_reviewTL3Regular29 Dec 2024#42

Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

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c.nybergTL2 Moderator30 Dec 2024#49

post #48 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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p.amankwahTL2 Moderator30 Dec 2024#58

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

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