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Revisiting: Filter needles: when they help and what they cost you

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a.norgaardTL2 Moderator9 Feb 2025#1

Revisiting: Filter needles: when they help and what they cost you — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable.

A question about technique rather than about dose.

I have been doing the same thing for 3 months and it works, and then I read one of the documentation pages here and realised I may have been reasoning from a misunderstanding the whole time. Nothing has gone wrong; I would just like to understand why it has not.

What I do, exactly, is described below. Please tell me which parts are load-bearing and which are superstition.

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j.vandermolenTL3Regular19 Feb 2025#2

Aspirating before injection: for subcutaneous injection, aspirating (pulling back on the plunger to check for blood) is not necessary and is sometimes discouraged because it is associated with more discomfort. Subcutaneous injection without aspiration is standard practice.

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a.lindqvistTL2 Moderator26 Feb 2025#3

Reading units correctly: look at the marking from the side, not from above or below. The bottom of the plunger tip is the reading. Parallax error (wrong angle) is a source of dosing error.

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g.valckenaereTL3Regular4 Mar 2025#4

the opening post answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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t.tullochTL2 Moderator10 Mar 2025 · edited#5
a.lindqvist, post #3: Reading units correctly: look at the marking from the side, not from above or below. The bottom of the plunger tip is the reading. Parallax error (wrong angle) is a source of dosing error. Go to post

I read post #3 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Needle length: typical lengths for subcutaneous injection are 4-6 mm (short), 8 mm (standard), or 10-12 mm (longer). Longer needles are needed for deeper tissue or if you have abdominal adiposity.

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BBramleyTL3Regular15 Mar 2025#6
a.lindqvist, post #3: Reading units correctly: look at the marking from the side, not from above or below. The bottom of the plunger tip is the reading. Parallax error (wrong angle) is a source of dosing error. Go to post

Needle gauge: smaller numbers (30G) are finer and less painful. Larger numbers (25G) are courser. For subcutaneous injection, 27-30G is typical. Finer needles take longer to draw up but hurt less.

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c.serranoTL2 Moderator20 Mar 2025#7

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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t.nardoneTL3Regular25 Mar 2025#8

Syringe barrel size: common sizes are 0.3 mL, 0.5 mL, and 1.0 mL. Smaller barrels are more legible for small doses. Larger barrels hold larger volumes. Choose based on your dose.

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m.ilungaTL2 Moderator30 Mar 2025#9

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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d.szymanskiTL3Wiki editor4 Apr 2025#10

Picking up post #7: that is the part I would want checked first.

Insulin syringe graduations: U-100 syringes are marked in units where 100 units = 1 mL. Always confirm your syringe is U-100. Confusion between insulin units and milligrams is the most common syringe error.

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m.dalgaardTL3Regular8 Apr 2025#11
a.lindqvist, post #3: Reading units correctly: look at the marking from the side, not from above or below. The bottom of the plunger tip is the reading. Parallax error (wrong angle) is a source of dosing error. Go to post

Fixed versus detachable needles: insulin syringes usually have fixed needles (no dead volume loss to the hub). Luer-lock syringes use detachable needles (more dead volume). Fixed needles are preferred for small doses.

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f.rasmussenTL2 Moderator13 Apr 2025#12
BBramley, post #6: Needle gauge: smaller numbers (30G) are finer and less painful. Larger numbers (25G) are courser. For subcutaneous injection, 27-30G is typical. Finer needles take longer to draw up but hurt less. Go to post

Coming back to post #10, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Dead volume: residual liquid in the hub and needle after withdrawal. Typical residual is 0.01 to 0.02 mL for an insulin syringe with a fixed needle. Accounting for it matters if precision matters.

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np_gilmoreTL3Nurse practitioner17 Apr 2025#13

post #12 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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m.vukovicTL2 Moderator21 Apr 2025 · edited#14

Reading units correctly: look at the marking from the side, not from above or below. The bottom of the plunger tip is the reading. Parallax error (wrong angle) is a source of dosing error.

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peak_purityTL3Analytical chemist26 Apr 2025#15

This follows post #12 rather than contradicting it.

Sharps disposal: needles and syringes should be disposed in a sharps container (a rigid, puncture-resistant container). Do not put them in regular trash. Many pharmacies accept filled sharps containers.

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j.erdoganTL2 Moderator30 Apr 2025#16
m.vukovic, post #14: Reading units correctly: look at the marking from the side, not from above or below. The bottom of the plunger tip is the reading. Parallax error (wrong angle) is a source of dosing error. Go to post

I read post #14 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Insulin syringe graduations: U-100 syringes are marked in units where 100 units = 1 mL. Always confirm your syringe is U-100. Confusion between insulin units and milligrams is the most common syringe error.

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owen.bradyTL4 Moderator4 May 2025#17
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Syringe barrel size: common sizes are 0.3 mL, 0.5 mL, and 1.0 mL. Smaller barrels are more legible for small doses. Larger barrels hold larger volumes. Choose based on your dose.

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s.dialloTL2 Moderator8 May 2025#18

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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mira.patelTL4 Admin12 May 2025#19
Staff post. Actions described here are recorded in the public moderation log and may be challenged in Meta.

Dead volume: residual liquid in the hub and needle after withdrawal. Typical residual is 0.01 to 0.02 mL for an insulin syringe with a fixed needle. Accounting for it matters if precision matters.

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m.onwukaTL216 May 2025#20
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j.hartmannTL2 Moderator20 May 2025#21

Needle length: typical lengths for subcutaneous injection are 4-6 mm (short), 8 mm (standard), or 10-12 mm (longer). Longer needles are needed for deeper tissue or if you have abdominal adiposity.

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PSkarbekTL3Regular24 May 2025#22

Aspirating before injection: for subcutaneous injection, aspirating (pulling back on the plunger to check for blood) is not necessary and is sometimes discouraged because it is associated with more discomfort. Subcutaneous injection without aspiration is standard practice.

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b.restrepoTL2 Moderator28 May 2025#23
j.hartmann, post #21: Needle length: typical lengths for subcutaneous injection are 4-6 mm (short), 8 mm (standard), or 10-12 mm (longer). Longer needles are needed for deeper tissue or if you have abdominal adiposity. Go to post

On post #19 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Fixed versus detachable needles: insulin syringes usually have fixed needles (no dead volume loss to the hub). Luer-lock syringes use detachable needles (more dead volume). Fixed needles are preferred for small doses.

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buffer_marginTL3Regular31 May 2025#24

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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j.baptistaTL2 Moderator4 Jun 2025#25

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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c.dahlbergTL2 Moderator8 Jun 2025#26

This follows post #23 rather than contradicting it.

Dead volume: residual liquid in the hub and needle after withdrawal. Typical residual is 0.01 to 0.02 mL for an insulin syringe with a fixed needle. Accounting for it matters if precision matters.

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d.petrescuTL2 Moderator15 Jun 2025#28
PSkarbek, post #22: Aspirating before injection: for subcutaneous injection, aspirating (pulling back on the plunger to check for blood) is not necessary and is sometimes discouraged because it is associated with more discomfort. Subcutaneous injection without aspiration is standard practice. Go to post

Needle length: typical lengths for subcutaneous injection are 4-6 mm (short), 8 mm (standard), or 10-12 mm (longer). Longer needles are needed for deeper tissue or if you have abdominal adiposity.

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pe.onwukaTL2 Moderator19 Jun 2025#29

Coming back to post #27, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Aspirating before injection: for subcutaneous injection, aspirating (pulling back on the plunger to check for blood) is not necessary and is sometimes discouraged because it is associated with more discomfort. Subcutaneous injection without aspiration is standard practice.

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ambient_reviewTL3Regular22 Jun 2025 · edited#30

Picking up post #27: that is the part I would want checked first.

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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