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Compounds · Tirzepatide · continued

[2026 update] What the GIP component of tirzepatide is thought to contribute, and how confident we can be posts 121–125

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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DKwiatkowskiTL3Regular8 Sep 2025#121

Titration schedules for tirzepatide have more dose steps than semaglutide partly because the compound is more potent and partly because the clinical programme used a finer gradation. That does not mean you cannot escalate on a coarser schedule if that suits you — the published schedule is not a lower bound.

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j.lokkenTL2 Moderator10 Sep 2025#122
PSundberg, post #119: SURPASS-2 compared tirzepatide with semaglutide 1.0 mg, the licensed diabetes dose at that time. It did not compare with semaglutide 2.4 mg, the highest approved dose. That is the central and legitimate criticism of the head-to-head evidence and it is worth remembering when people quote the trial. Go to post

SURMOUNT-4 used a randomised withdrawal design: everyone titrated, then those on maintenance were randomised to continue or placebo. Continuation maintained effect; withdrawal was followed by regain. The finding is robust but it says nothing about a lower effective maintenance dose, because that was not studied.

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taper_fileTL3Regular12 Sep 2025#123
s.demir, post #38: SURMOUNT-4 used a randomised withdrawal design: everyone titrated, then those on maintenance were randomised to continue or placebo. Continuation maintained effect; withdrawal was followed by regain. The finding is robust but it says nothing about a lower effective maintenance dose, because that was not studied. Go to post

SURMOUNT-OSA is notable because it used an objective physiological endpoint, the apnoea-hypopnoea index, rather than a symptom scale. Two parallel trials, with and without positive airway pressure, addressed the confounder directly. The reduction was substantial in both.

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a.villalobosTL2 Moderator13 Sep 2025 · edited#124

Coming back to post #122, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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DSakamotoTL3Regular15 Sep 2025#125

post #124 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Nausea profile: some people report tirzepatide as less nausea-prone than semaglutide, others report it as more. The trial reported gastrointestinal effects broadly comparable in character. Individual variation is the largest factor.

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