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Coming back to: GHRH analogues versus ghrelin mimetics: different mechanisms, conflated discussion

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bench_notesTL4 Moderator30 May 2024#1

GHRH analogues versus ghrelin mimetics: different mechanisms, conflated discussion Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did.

I have seen SURPASS-4 (Lancet, 2021) cited in support of a claim I do not think it supports, twice this month, so I would like to work through what it actually shows.

My reading is that the trial is sound for its own question and is being stretched to answer a different one. I might be wrong about that, which is why this is a topic rather than a correction.

What I would like from this discussion: someone who disagrees with me to say why, with the section of the paper they are relying on.

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h.mensahTL2 Moderator21 Sep 2024#5

Worth separating two things that the opening post runs together.

Ipamorelin selectivity claims originate in preclinical characterisation and are reasonably well supported for what they claim: less effect on cortisol and prolactin than earlier GHRPs. Whether that translates to something clinically meaningful is a different question from whether the selectivity is real.

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h.amankwahTL2 Moderator11 Dec 2024#9

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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ThibodeauTL3Regular30 Dec 2024#10
h.mensah, post #5: Worth separating two things that the opening post runs together. Ipamorelin selectivity claims originate in preclinical characterisation and are reasonably well supported for what they claim: less effect on cortisol and prolactin than earlier GHRPs. Whether that translates to something clinically meaningful is a different question from… Go to post

What a well-designed human trial of a secretagogue would look like: randomised, placebo-controlled, adequate sample size, IGF-1 as primary outcome, muscle and strength as secondary outcomes, adequate follow-up duration. Very few secretagogue trials meet that description.

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BramleyTL2Member18 Jan 2025#11
bench_notes, post #1: GHRH analogues versus ghrelin mimetics: different mechanisms, conflated discussion Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. I have seen SURPASS-4 ( Lancet , 2021) cited in support of a claim I do not think it supports, twice this month, so I would like to work through what it actually shows. My… Go to post

Secretagogues and glucose tolerance: there is a mechanistic concern that sustained growth hormone elevation might impair glucose tolerance. The clinical relevance of this concern in practice is not well established.

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