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Distinguishing a deletion sequence by mass alone posts 121–130

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r.marsdenTL3Regular22 Feb 2025#121

This follows post #118 rather than contradicting it.

Charge states observed: for semaglutide (4113.6 Da) the doubly charged ion appears at m/z ≈ 2057, triply charged at ≈ 1371, quadruply at ≈ 1029. Those are the positions to look for; the heights depend on the ionization efficiency.

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a.amankwahTL2 Moderator23 Feb 2025 · edited#122

I read post #120 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Common adducts: sodium adds ≈22, potassium adds ≈38 compared to hydrogen. A [M+Na]+ peak is common and its mass is predictable from the base mass.

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PSundbergTL2Member23 Feb 2025#123
m.agyeman, post #96: On post #92 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Common adducts: sodium adds ≈22, potassium adds ≈38 compared to hydrogen. A [M+Na]+ peak is common and its mass is predictable from the base mass. Go to post

Mass accuracy is expressed in parts per million. It is the difference between observed and theoretical mass divided by theoretical mass, multiplied by a million. A high-resolution instrument in good calibration achieves low single-digit ppm on a peptide of this size.

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f.fontaineTL2 Moderator23 Feb 2025#124
r.mensa, post #1: Distinguishing a deletion sequence by mass alone Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. Working through the identity arithmetic and I would like it checked. tirzepatide has a monoisotopic mass close to 4813.5 Da. On an electrospray instrument I would expect to see the multiply charged series… Go to post

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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k.farrugiaTL3Regular23 Feb 2025#125

Tandem mass spectrometry: MS/MS fragments the molecular ion and uses fragment masses to confirm identity and detect modifications. A simple identity confirmation by LC-MS does not address post-translational modifications or impurities with the same or very close mass.

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k.okaforTL2 Moderator24 Feb 2025#126

Coming back to post #124, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Desalting before analysis: some samples need desalting to remove salts that suppress the peptide signal. Report whether desalting was used, because it can affect the apparent ionization efficiency and the reported purity.

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LeitermanTL324 Feb 2025#127
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c.balogunTL2 Moderator24 Feb 2025#128
buffer_review, post #115: Coming back to post #113, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Desalting before analysis: some samples need desalting to remove salts that suppress the peptide signal. Report whether desalting was used, because it can affect the apparent ionization efficiency and the reported purity. Go to post

Resolution: "high resolution" commonly means <5 ppm across the mass range. Unit-resolution instruments achieve ±1 Da at best and cannot distinguish two species differing by less than 1 Da in total mass.

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ambient_reviewTL3Regular24 Feb 2025 · edited#129

Quantitation by MS: most quantitation is done by LC-UV detection at 214 nm, not by MS, because extinction coefficients are better known. MS can quantify if an internal standard is used but that requires preparation.

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a.petrovTL2 Moderator24 Feb 2025#130

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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