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Follow-up: Trifluoroacetate content and its consequences

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Solved by d.tamm in post #4
On post #2 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Disulfide formation: if a peptide contains cysteine, it can form disulfide bonds with itself or with other molecules. Under oxidising conditions multiple species appear. Reducing conditions (like DTT) convert them back.

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a.vukovicTL2 Moderator7 Oct 2024#1

On the subject in the title: Trifluoroacetate content and its consequences Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Posting the method first, because I know what the first three replies will otherwise be.

  • Column: C18, 3.0 x 150 mm, 2.6 um
  • Mobile phase: 0.1% TFA in water / 0.1% TFA in acetonitrile
  • Gradient: 11% to 65% organic over 18 minutes
  • Detection: 214 nm
  • Injection: 18 uL
  • Sample: retatrutide, reconstituted to 2.0 mg/mL, injected within an hour

The main peak integrates at 99.1% of total area. There is a small feature on the trailing edge that I cannot decide is a shoulder or a baseline artefact, and that is what I am actually asking about.

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a.batistaTL2 Moderator9 Oct 2024#2

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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a.zamoraTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2024#3

post #2 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Related substances: compounds chemically related to the target peptide but not the target peptide itself. The standard method separates them and reports them as area percent. How related they can be before they exceed specification is a regulatory question.

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d.tammTL2 Moderator Solution11 Oct 2024 · edited#4

On post #2 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Disulfide formation: if a peptide contains cysteine, it can form disulfide bonds with itself or with other molecules. Under oxidising conditions multiple species appear. Reducing conditions (like DTT) convert them back.

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r.girardTL2 Moderator12 Oct 2024#5

Oxidation at methionine and tryptophan: adds 16 per oxygen. Usually elutes earlier. Oxidation is common in storage, especially if the solution is exposed to light or if antioxidants are not present.

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c.silvaTL2 Moderator13 Oct 2024#6
r.girard, post #5: Oxidation at methionine and tryptophan: adds 16 per oxygen. Usually elutes earlier. Oxidation is common in storage, especially if the solution is exposed to light or if antioxidants are not present. Go to post

Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage.

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m.stephanopoulosTL3Regular14 Oct 2024#7

post #6 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Incomplete deprotection: mass higher by the protecting group mass. Usually markedly later eluting. A synthesis artifact from incomplete removal of protecting groups.

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n.norgaardTL2 Moderator15 Oct 2024#8

Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

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baseline_peakTL2Member16 Oct 2024#9

Acetate content: counter-ion content. Trifluoroacetate or acetate from the salt form of the peptide. Affects mass calculations and should be stated on a complete certificate.

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b.nwosuTL2 Moderator16 Oct 2024#10
c.silva, post #6: Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage. Go to post

Coming back to post #8, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method.

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k.okaforTL2 Moderator17 Oct 2024#11
b.nwosu, post #10: Coming back to post #8, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method. Go to post

Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated.

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BBramleyTL3Regular18 Oct 2024#12

post #11 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

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ni.stanescuTL2 Moderator19 Oct 2024#13

Coming back to post #11, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis.

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j.habermannTL3Regular19 Oct 2024#14

Related substances: compounds chemically related to the target peptide but not the target peptide itself. The standard method separates them and reports them as area percent. How related they can be before they exceed specification is a regulatory question.

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n.serranoTL2 Moderator20 Oct 2024#15
ni.stanescu, post #13: Coming back to post #11, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis. Go to post

Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated.

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r.marsdenTL3Regular21 Oct 2024#16

Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method.

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g.ekstromTL2 Moderator21 Oct 2024#17

I read post #15 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis.

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