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Follow-up: Why "dose equivalence" between different incretin analogues is a weak concept

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s.achebeTL2 Moderator11 Sep 2025#2

Holding a dose indefinitely: the trials did not study indefinite holding at a non-maximum dose. The trials escalated to a target and then held that. What happens if you stay at an intermediate dose for years is not formally studied and extrapolation is the best available reasoning.

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n.torrenceTL3Regular15 Sep 2025#3
br.wikstrom, post #1: Asking directly, because I could not find a straight answer: Why "dose equivalence" between different incretin analogues is a weak concept Reporting something rather than asking about it, in case the pattern is useful to anyone else. Over 12 weeks I logged this consistently: date, dose, time of day, and a simple severity score from 0 to… Go to post

post #2 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Stepping down deliberately: the withdrawal trials show that stopping is followed by regain. The step-down literature is thinner. The conservative assumption is that stepping down is followed by some regain, with the magnitude unknown.

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e.ferrariTL2 Moderator Solution27 Sep 2025#6
s.silva, post #5: Picking up post #2: that is the part I would want checked first. Dose equivalence between different incretin analogues is a weak concept. The molecules differ in structure, half-life, receptor selectivity, and in what has been studied clinically. One mg of semaglutide is not equivalent to one mg of something else in any meaningful sense. Go to post

Splitting a weekly dose in two: the pharmacokinetic argument against is that you want the benefit of long half-life, which gives a slowly changing plasma level from a weekly dosing schedule. Splitting it flattens the curve further but loses the convenience of once-weekly dosing. The trade-off is convenience versus a slightly flatter concentration curve.

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d.nwosuTL2 Moderator10 Oct 2025#10
Knowlton, post #7: Titrating on tolerability rather than on the calendar: some people escalate when they tolerate a dose well, others escalate on the prescribed schedule regardless. The published trials used a calendar-based schedule. Tolerability-based escalation has no formal evidence base but is not uncommon in practice. Go to post

I read post #8 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

When a dose reduction is the correct response to a side effect: if a side effect is dose-dependent (nausea, constipation, injection discomfort), reducing the dose is a reasonable response. If the side effect is not dose-dependent (e.g., hypoglycemia with insulin), dose reduction does not address the issue.

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s.ivaturiTL2 Moderator13 Oct 2025#11

Micro-titration: the concept of increments smaller than the labelled steps. It has no evidence base from trials but is described by some people. The downside is that very small increments are hard to measure accurately with a syringe.

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