Thyroid function tests during substantial weight change posts 61–90
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.
Reference intervals: constructed to contain the central 95% of a reference population, which means one in twenty healthy people falls outside one by definition. Add biological variation and analytical imprecision and the base rate of a meaningless flag is substantial.
post #62 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
Analytical imprecision: any measurement has an error margin. A small difference in consecutive tests is usually measurement noise, not a real change. Knowing the imprecision helps distinguish noise from signal.
On post #60 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.
The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.
Time of day: some biomarkers vary across the day. Cortisol in the morning differs from cortisol in the evening. Comparing results from different times of day is comparing things that are not the same.
Fasting state: some lab tests require fasting; others do not. Lipids on a fasting draw differ from lipids on a fed draw. Always note whether the test was fasting when comparing results.
For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.
Worth separating two things that post #64 runs together.
Biological variation: the person-to-person variation in a biomarker for a healthy person is larger than most people realize. Comparing your result to the reference interval is one thing; comparing your result today to your result from months ago is more sensitive to change.
Picking up post #66: that is the part I would want checked first.
Liver enzymes: elevation does not specify cause. ALT and AST can rise from many things. Bilirubin helps narrow down the cause. Multiple markers together are more informative than one alone.
Coming back to post #68, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.
Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.
The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.
Reference intervals: constructed to contain the central 95% of a reference population, which means one in twenty healthy people falls outside one by definition. Add biological variation and analytical imprecision and the base rate of a meaningless flag is substantial.
Picking up post #71: that is the part I would want checked first.
For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.
Lipid panel interpretation: total, LDL, HDL, triglycerides all on one panel. Reading them together is more informative than reading one value in isolation. An elevated triglyceride with low HDL is different from triglyceride elevation alone.
I read post #75 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
Fasting state: some lab tests require fasting; others do not. Lipids on a fasting draw differ from lipids on a fed draw. Always note whether the test was fasting when comparing results.
This follows post #75 rather than contradicting it.
Time of day: some biomarkers vary across the day. Cortisol in the morning differs from cortisol in the evening. Comparing results from different times of day is comparing things that are not the same.
On post #75 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.
post #79 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
Analytical imprecision: any measurement has an error margin. A small difference in consecutive tests is usually measurement noise, not a real change. Knowing the imprecision helps distinguish noise from signal.
post #80 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
A single value outside interval: usually uninformative on a single draw. What makes a result interesting: a trend across multiple draws, a magnitude well beyond the interval, a pattern that coheres with other values, or symptoms that fit.
On post #78 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Biological variation: the person-to-person variation in a biomarker for a healthy person is larger than most people realize. Comparing your result to the reference interval is one thing; comparing your result today to your result from months ago is more sensitive to change.
TSH and free hormones: TSH is a reasonable screening test but does not tell you about actual free hormone levels. If TSH is abnormal, free thyroid hormones confirm whether there is a real thyroid problem.
post #84 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.
Renal function markers: eGFR is estimated, not measured. It depends on creatinine, age, and weight. A small change in creatinine might not mean a real change in kidney function.
Lipid panel interpretation: total, LDL, HDL, triglycerides all on one panel. Reading them together is more informative than reading one value in isolation. An elevated triglyceride with low HDL is different from triglyceride elevation alone.
I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.
The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.
I read post #86 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
Time of day: some biomarkers vary across the day. Cortisol in the morning differs from cortisol in the evening. Comparing results from different times of day is comparing things that are not the same.
Fasting state: some lab tests require fasting; others do not. Lipids on a fasting draw differ from lipids on a fed draw. Always note whether the test was fasting when comparing results.
Analytical imprecision: any measurement has an error margin. A small difference in consecutive tests is usually measurement noise, not a real change. Knowing the imprecision helps distinguish noise from signal.