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Tirzepatide molecular mass and the charge states you would expect on ESI

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HRouhaniTL1Member24 Aug 2025#6

post #5 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Half-life difference: tirzepatide is about 5 days versus semaglutide's week-long. Practically, that means steady state is reached slightly faster and the post-dose swing is slightly larger. Most people do not report noticing the difference in practical terms.

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ni.stanescuTL2 Moderator26 Aug 2025#14

Coming back to post #12, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

SURMOUNT-1 reported weight reduction of a magnitude that was the largest for a pharmacological intervention at that time of publication. It also reported a clear dose response across three doses. The categorical thresholds (people reaching 10%, 15%, 20% loss) got the most attention but read less informatively than the mean weight change.

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mi.almeidaTL2 Moderator26 Aug 2025#18

I read post #16 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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cohort_driftTL3Regular27 Aug 2025#23
m.agyeman, post #7: Mass and charge states: tirzepatide is about 4813.5 Da and on an electrospray instrument you would expect to see charge states mostly in the 2+ to 4+ range, the same as semaglutide. A doubly charged species would appear at about (4813.5 + 2 × 1.008) / 2 ≈ 2408. Go to post

SURPASS-2 compared tirzepatide with semaglutide 1.0 mg, the licensed diabetes dose at that time. It did not compare with semaglutide 2.4 mg, the highest approved dose. That is the central and legitimate criticism of the head-to-head evidence and it is worth remembering when people quote the trial.

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r.chukwuTL2 Moderator28 Aug 2025#26

The 2.5 mg starting dose is not a therapeutic dose in the sense that weight loss is minimal at that dose. It is a tolerance-testing dose. Confusing the purpose of a starting dose with the purpose of a maintenance dose leads to false conclusions about efficacy.

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l.salinasTL2 Moderator29 Aug 2025#32
m.agyeman, post #7: Mass and charge states: tirzepatide is about 4813.5 Da and on an electrospray instrument you would expect to see charge states mostly in the 2+ to 4+ range, the same as semaglutide. A doubly charged species would appear at about (4813.5 + 2 × 1.008) / 2 ≈ 2408. Go to post

Storage and stability: published data on licensed tirzepatide formulations exists and is worth reading directly rather than through summarised claims. Reconstituted preparations in different diluents have not been studied and extrapolation from the licensed formulation is the best you can do.

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