SURPASS-2 compared tirzepatide with semaglutide 1.0 mg, the licensed diabetes dose at that time. It did not compare with semaglutide 2.4 mg, the highest approved dose. That is the central and legitimate criticism of the head-to-head evidence and it is worth remembering when people quote the trial.
Tirzepatide storage and stability: what is published versus what is assumed — does this still hold?
This follows post #3 rather than contradicting it.
The 2.5 mg starting dose is not a therapeutic dose in the sense that weight loss is minimal at that dose. It is a tolerance-testing dose. Confusing the purpose of a starting dose with the purpose of a maintenance dose leads to false conclusions about efficacy.
Storage and stability: published data on licensed tirzepatide formulations exists and is worth reading directly rather than through summarised claims. Reconstituted preparations in different diluents have not been studied and extrapolation from the licensed formulation is the best you can do.
On post #10 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Dual agonism versus dose: how much of tirzepatide's effect is the GIP component and how much is simply achieving higher receptor engagement? The honest answer is that the question is not settled. Some of the effect is surely the GIP component, but the trial design does not decompose it.
Worth separating two things that post #14 runs together.
Dual agonism versus dose: how much of tirzepatide's effect is the GIP component and how much is simply achieving higher receptor engagement? The honest answer is that the question is not settled. Some of the effect is surely the GIP component, but the trial design does not decompose it.
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