Albumin binding: semaglutide binds albumin through a fatty side chain, which sequesters the free form and extends the half-life. Tirzepatide also has albumin binding (different mechanism) which extends its half-life compared to an unmodified peptide.
Coming back to: Washout: how long is long enough, and for what purpose posts 121–140
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.
Fasting requirement for oral semaglutide: food and large fluid volumes reduce absorption. The fasting window (30 minutes before and 30 minutes after) is designed to maximise absorption. Violating it measurably reduces exposure.
post #123 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.
Renal clearance: these compounds are cleared partly via the kidney. In severe renal impairment, clearance is slowed and accumulation risk is higher. Dose adjustments might be needed.
Hepatic metabolism: the degree to which each compound is hepatically metabolised versus renally cleared is known but varies. Severe liver disease changes clearance.
On post #123 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Half-life: semaglutide ≈ 165–184 hours (about a week). Tirzepatide ≈ 5 days. Liraglutide ≈ 13 hours. The half-life determines how much accumulation happens at steady state and how long it takes to clear after stopping.
post #127 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.
I read post #127 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
SNAC (the oral bioavailability enhancer): sodium N-(8-[2-hydroxybenzoyl]amino) caprylate transiently raises gastric pH and promotes absorption. Without it, oral bioavailability is too low for clinical use. With it, bioavailability is still variable between people.
This follows post #127 rather than contradicting it.
Bioavailability: oral semaglutide has low bioavailability (roughly 1%) due to peptide instability. That is why the oral dose (14 mg) is so much larger than the injectable dose. Comparing them by mass is meaningless.
Accumulation at steady state: with a week-long half-life, steady-state concentration is reached around 4 to 5 half-lives (about 4 to 5 weeks). Before that, concentration is rising with each dose. The clinical implication: escalating before 4 weeks means escalating before steady state.
Picking up post #130: that is the part I would want checked first.
Individual variation: people vary in how quickly they absorb, distribute, metabolise, and excrete these compounds. That variation is partly genetic and partly due to individual biology (gut motility, kidney and liver function). It explains why two people on the same dose have different response magnitudes.
Coming back to post #132, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.
Two things before anyone answers the substance.
First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.
Renal clearance: these compounds are cleared partly via the kidney. In severe renal impairment, clearance is slowed and accumulation risk is higher. Dose adjustments might be needed.
I read post #136 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
SNAC (the oral bioavailability enhancer): sodium N-(8-[2-hydroxybenzoyl]amino) caprylate transiently raises gastric pH and promotes absorption. Without it, oral bioavailability is too low for clinical use. With it, bioavailability is still variable between people.
post #138 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
Bioavailability: oral semaglutide has low bioavailability (roughly 1%) due to peptide instability. That is why the oral dose (14 mg) is so much larger than the injectable dose. Comparing them by mass is meaningless.
On post #136 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Two things before anyone answers the substance.
First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.
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