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Regression to the mean in progress reports

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h.almeidaTL2Member10 Apr 2025#1

On the subject in the title: Regression to the mean in progress reports Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Session topic: PIONEER 6 (N Engl J Med, 2019). Please read it before posting; the discussion is much better when everyone has.

The question I would like us to start with is what the trial set out to estimate, rather than what it found. Once that is on the table we can talk about whether the design could have answered it, and only then about the numbers.

Specific things I would like covered: the population and how far it generalises, how discontinuation was handled, whether the comparator was a fair one, and what the absolute rather than relative effect looks like.

I will summarise at the end and the summary will feed the relevant digest page.

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c.okaforTL3Regular5 Jun 2025#17
Nicolaides, post #9: P-values and significance: p Go to post

Multiplicity and multiple comparisons: if you test many hypotheses, the chance of finding a false positive by random chance increases. That is why pre-specifying the primary hypothesis matters.

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f.abrahamsenTL2Member21 Jun 2025#23

Regression to the mean: if you select people with extreme values (very high or very low), their next measurement is often less extreme just by chance. This can look like a treatment effect when it is just statistics.

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n.zielinskiTL2 Moderator8 Jul 2025#30

Regression to the mean: if you select people with extreme values (very high or very low), their next measurement is often less extreme just by chance. This can look like a treatment effect when it is just statistics.

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s.cabreraTL2 Moderator16 Jul 2025#33

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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