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Revisiting: Protein density versus volume when you cannot eat much posts 61–90

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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a.wikstromTL2 Moderator13 Jul 2026#61

Eating anything at all: on substantial appetite suppression, eating enough total calories to maintain lean mass is the priority. Protein comes second to total intake.

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j.mwangiTL4 Moderator14 Jul 2026 · edited#62
f.espinoza, post #1: Revisiting: Protein density versus volume when you cannot eat much Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. Longitudinal report with the method stated, because a number without a method is not a measurement. Same scale, same time of day, same conditions, 88 weeks. I have also recorded protein… Go to post
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Protein targets during weight loss: the standard recommendation is 1.6 to 2.2 grams per kilogram of body weight. Individual requirements vary but that range is a reasonable starting point.

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m.adeyemiTL2 Moderator14 Jul 2026#63

Meeting protein targets on suppressed appetite: this is where the practical difficulty lies. Eating more protein when appetite is suppressed is genuinely hard. Front-loading the day, prioritising density over volume, and accepting this is a problem worth solving all help.

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chromatogramTL4Analytical chemist14 Jul 2026#64

Picking up post #61: that is the part I would want checked first.

Liquid versus solid: protein in liquid form (shakes) is easier to consume in volume but might not be as satiating as solid food. Using both together can help.

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j.sorensenTL2 Moderator14 Jul 2026#65

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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c.rasmussenTL2 Moderator15 Jul 2026#66

Protein supplements: whey, casein, and plant-based protein powders can help hit targets when whole-food intake is limited by appetite. Protein quality (all essential amino acids) matters more than form.

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c.ramosTL2 Moderator15 Jul 2026#67
s.coelho, post #52: Worth separating two things that post #48 runs together. Protein sources: animal sources (meat, fish, eggs, dairy) are denser and easier to hit targets with. Plant sources require higher volume. Neither is nutritionally superior; volume and personal preference matter. Go to post

I read post #65 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Protein sources: animal sources (meat, fish, eggs, dairy) are denser and easier to hit targets with. Plant sources require higher volume. Neither is nutritionally superior; volume and personal preference matter.

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j.castellanosTL2 Moderator15 Jul 2026#68

This follows post #65 rather than contradicting it.

Eating anything at all: on substantial appetite suppression, eating enough total calories to maintain lean mass is the priority. Protein comes second to total intake.

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a.kirchnerTL2 Moderator16 Jul 2026 · edited#69

Meeting protein targets on suppressed appetite: this is where the practical difficulty lies. Eating more protein when appetite is suppressed is genuinely hard. Front-loading the day, prioritising density over volume, and accepting this is a problem worth solving all help.

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appeals_deskTL316 Jul 2026#70
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LundqvistTL2Member16 Jul 2026#71

Timing of protein: spreading protein intake across the day, with some at each meal, is more practical than trying to hit the whole target at one sitting on suppressed appetite.

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f.laurentTL2 Moderator16 Jul 2026#72

Leucine and MPS: leucine stimulates muscle protein synthesis at a threshold of roughly 2 to 3 grams per meal. That influences how much protein per meal matters, but total daily protein still matters most.

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k.bettencourtTL2Member17 Jul 2026#73
c.rasmussen, post #66: Protein supplements: whey, casein, and plant-based protein powders can help hit targets when whole-food intake is limited by appetite. Protein quality (all essential amino acids) matters more than form. Go to post

post #72 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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j.solbergTL2 Moderator17 Jul 2026#74

On post #70 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Micronutrition alongside protein: eating protein foods that are also good sources of micronutrients (iron, B vitamins, zinc) solves two problems at once.

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apostille_traceTL1Member17 Jul 2026#75

Protein targets during weight loss: the standard recommendation is 1.6 to 2.2 grams per kilogram of body weight. Individual requirements vary but that range is a reasonable starting point.

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k.chukwuTL2 Moderator18 Jul 2026 · edited#76

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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septum_entryTL2Member18 Jul 2026#77
j.mwangi, post #62: Protein targets during weight loss: the standard recommendation is 1.6 to 2.2 grams per kilogram of body weight. Individual requirements vary but that range is a reasonable starting point. Go to post

Fibre: adequate fibre intake supports fullness and gut motility, both of which matter during the gastrointestinal effects of these compounds. High fibre on top of appetite suppression requires attention to hydration and gradual introduction.

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c.falkTL2 Moderator18 Jul 2026#78
so.mbeki, post #3: I read the opening post twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Timing of protein: spreading protein intake across the day, with some at each meal, is more practical than trying to hit the whole target at one sitting on suppressed appetite. Go to post

Worth separating two things that post #74 runs together.

Meeting protein targets on suppressed appetite: this is where the practical difficulty lies. Eating more protein when appetite is suppressed is genuinely hard. Front-loading the day, prioritising density over volume, and accepting this is a problem worth solving all help.

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c.lundgrenTL2 Moderator18 Jul 2026#79

Picking up post #76: that is the part I would want checked first.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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n.nybergTL2 Moderator19 Jul 2026#80
m.adeyemi, post #63: Meeting protein targets on suppressed appetite: this is where the practical difficulty lies. Eating more protein when appetite is suppressed is genuinely hard. Front-loading the day, prioritising density over volume, and accepting this is a problem worth solving all help. Go to post

Fibre: adequate fibre intake supports fullness and gut motility, both of which matter during the gastrointestinal effects of these compounds. High fibre on top of appetite suppression requires attention to hydration and gradual introduction.

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e.krastevTL2 Moderator19 Jul 2026 · edited#81

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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s.poulsenTL3Regular19 Jul 2026#82

Protein supplements: whey, casein, and plant-based protein powders can help hit targets when whole-food intake is limited by appetite. Protein quality (all essential amino acids) matters more than form.

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e.mikkelsenTL2Member20 Jul 2026#84

Leucine and MPS: leucine stimulates muscle protein synthesis at a threshold of roughly 2 to 3 grams per meal. That influences how much protein per meal matters, but total daily protein still matters most.

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i.brobergTL2 Moderator20 Jul 2026#85

Protein targets during weight loss: the standard recommendation is 1.6 to 2.2 grams per kilogram of body weight. Individual requirements vary but that range is a reasonable starting point.

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VThorvaldsenTL3Regular20 Jul 2026#86
i.boateng, post #32: Timing of protein: spreading protein intake across the day, with some at each meal, is more practical than trying to hit the whole target at one sitting on suppressed appetite. Go to post

Picking up post #83: that is the part I would want checked first.

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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i.rasmussenTL2 Moderator21 Jul 2026#87
b.adeyemi, post #13: Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up. Go to post

Eating anything at all: on substantial appetite suppression, eating enough total calories to maintain lean mass is the priority. Protein comes second to total intake.

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MSaarinenTL3Regular21 Jul 2026#88

Protein sources: animal sources (meat, fish, eggs, dairy) are denser and easier to hit targets with. Plant sources require higher volume. Neither is nutritionally superior; volume and personal preference matter.

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m.yildizTL2 Moderator21 Jul 2026#89

I read post #87 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Timing of protein: spreading protein intake across the day, with some at each meal, is more practical than trying to hit the whole target at one sitting on suppressed appetite.

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lyophil_marginTL3Regular21 Jul 2026 · edited#90
FFaulkner, post #6: Liquid versus solid: protein in liquid form (shakes) is easier to consume in volume but might not be as satiating as solid food. Using both together can help. Go to post

This follows post #87 rather than contradicting it.

Liquid versus solid: protein in liquid form (shakes) is easier to consume in volume but might not be as satiating as solid food. Using both together can help.

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