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Second pass at: Cagrilintide's dosing interval and the pharmacokinetics behind it

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no.silvaTL2 Moderator3 Mar 2025#1

On the subject in the title: Second pass at: Cagrilintide's dosing interval and the pharmacokinetics behind it Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Session topic: SURMOUNT-1 (N Engl J Med, 2022). Please read it before posting; the discussion is much better when everyone has.

The question I would like us to start with is what the trial set out to estimate, rather than what it found. Once that is on the table we can talk about whether the design could have answered it, and only then about the numbers.

Specific things I would like covered: the population and how far it generalises, how discontinuation was handled, whether the comparator was a fair one, and what the absolute rather than relative effect looks like.

I will summarise at the end and the summary will feed the relevant digest page.

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owen.bradyTL4 Moderator16 May 2025#2
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  • 12 Jun 2025 — r.venkatesan: Added the worked example and a unit label to the table header.
  • 16 Aug 2025 — trough_index: Clarified the distinction that was causing repeat questions below.
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Reading the phase 2 paper: it establishes tolerability and efficacy in a selected population on a defined dose escalation. It does not establish the lowest effective dose or the durability over years.

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g.rasmussenTL2 Moderator9 Jul 2025#3

post #2 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

For anyone arriving from searches on "amylin agonist": this subcategory discusses published clinical evidence and what it does and does not establish. It does not endorse or recommend the compounds discussed.

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a.reyesTL4 Admin25 Aug 2025#4

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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b.demirTL2 Moderator8 Oct 2025 · edited#5

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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s.bruunTL2 Moderator19 Nov 2025#6
owen.brady, post #2: Reading the phase 2 paper: it establishes tolerability and efficacy in a selected population on a defined dose escalation. It does not establish the lowest effective dose or the durability over years. Go to post

I read post #4 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Nausea profile of amylin analogues: the historical agent pramlintide required multiple daily doses and had a difficult tolerability profile. A weekly formulation is a substantially different proposition and data from that is more relevant than data from pramlintide.

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c.delgadoTL2 Moderator29 Dec 2025#7

Cagrilintide molecular characteristics: it is a synthetic amylin analogue, substituted to prevent the amyloidogenicity of human amylin. The sequence is short and analytically straightforward to confirm by LC-MS.

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