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Nutrition & Training · Hydration & electrolytes · continued

Second pass at: Sodium, potassium and magnesium when intake drops posts 31–60

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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n.rahimiTL2 Moderator8 Aug 2024 · edited#31

Magnesium: deficiency during weight loss is common and symptoms (fatigue, muscle cramps) are nonspecific. Supplementation is inexpensive and low-risk if needed.

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l.dziedzicTL2 Moderator9 Aug 2024#32
m.radich, post #22: Magnesium: deficiency during weight loss is common and symptoms (fatigue, muscle cramps) are nonspecific. Supplementation is inexpensive and low-risk if needed. Go to post

Coming back to post #30, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

The very ordinary causes of week-two malaise: inadequate hydration, low sodium intake, too-rapid calorie deficit, and inadequate sleep are more common causes of fatigue and malaise than compound toxicity.

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e.ferrariTL2 Moderator9 Aug 2024#33

post #32 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Lab testing: if symptoms are severe or persistent, checking electrolytes and minerals (sodium, potassium, magnesium, calcium) and interpreting them in context of losses during weight loss is reasonable.

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p.amankwahTL2 Moderator10 Aug 2024#34

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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KLindqvistTL4 Moderator11 Aug 2024#35
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Orthostatic symptoms: dizziness on standing after lying down can indicate dehydration or electrolyte depletion. Increasing fluids, salt, and potassium usually resolves it.

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c.tullochTL2 Moderator11 Aug 2024#36
m.radich, post #22: Magnesium: deficiency during weight loss is common and symptoms (fatigue, muscle cramps) are nonspecific. Supplementation is inexpensive and low-risk if needed. Go to post

Constipation and hydration: dehydration makes constipation worse. Increasing fluid intake is the first intervention for constipation alongside other measures.

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n.lehtinenTL2 Moderator12 Aug 2024#37

post #36 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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a.ibarraTL2 Moderator13 Aug 2024#38

Worth separating two things that post #34 runs together.

Fluid intake: baseline needs increase with gastrointestinal effects and exercise. Thirst is not a reliable guide during appetite suppression. Drinking regularly (not just when thirsty) is prudent.

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b.friskTL2 Moderator13 Aug 2024#39

Picking up post #36: that is the part I would want checked first.

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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buffer_sheetTL3Regular14 Aug 2024#40

Potassium: similar to sodium; losing weight involves some potassium loss. Bananas, sweet potatoes, and other potassium-rich foods help. Severe depletion is rare but symptomatic (weakness, palpitations).

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b.vanheckeTL2 Moderator15 Aug 2024#41

Fluid intake: baseline needs increase with gastrointestinal effects and exercise. Thirst is not a reliable guide during appetite suppression. Drinking regularly (not just when thirsty) is prudent.

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chromatogramTL4Analytical chemist15 Aug 2024 · edited#42
Okafor, post #7: Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing. The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough. Go to post

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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e.kuuselaTL2 Moderator16 Aug 2024#43
buffer_sheet, post #40: Potassium: similar to sodium; losing weight involves some potassium loss. Bananas, sweet potatoes, and other potassium-rich foods help. Severe depletion is rare but symptomatic (weakness, palpitations). Go to post

Worth separating two things that post #39 runs together.

Potassium: similar to sodium; losing weight involves some potassium loss. Bananas, sweet potatoes, and other potassium-rich foods help. Severe depletion is rare but symptomatic (weakness, palpitations).

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j.mwangiTL4 Moderator17 Aug 2024#44

Sodium: losing weight involves losing some sodium. Electrolyte drinks or salty foods help maintain sodium balance. Very low sodium intake on these compounds raises orthostatic symptoms risk.

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y.rahimiTL2 Moderator17 Aug 2024#45

The very ordinary causes of week-two malaise: inadequate hydration, low sodium intake, too-rapid calorie deficit, and inadequate sleep are more common causes of fatigue and malaise than compound toxicity.

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preregisteredTL3Research methods18 Aug 2024#46
appeals_desk, post #13: This follows post #10 rather than contradicting it. I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological. The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am… Go to post

Picking up post #43: that is the part I would want checked first.

Magnesium: deficiency during weight loss is common and symptoms (fatigue, muscle cramps) are nonspecific. Supplementation is inexpensive and low-risk if needed.

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r.petrovTL2 Moderator18 Aug 2024#47

Water intoxication: drinking excessive water (more than a few liters per day for extended time) without electrolyte replacement can cause hyponatremia. This is rare but serious. Balance fluid with electrolytes.

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ppm_errorTL3Analytical chemist19 Aug 2024#48

Lab testing: if symptoms are severe or persistent, checking electrolytes and minerals (sodium, potassium, magnesium, calcium) and interpreting them in context of losses during weight loss is reasonable.

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v.salgadoTL2 Moderator20 Aug 2024#49
ms_holloway, post #29: On post #25 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing. The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough. Go to post

I read post #47 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Exercise and electrolyte losses: sweating during exercise increases sodium and potassium losses. Electrolyte replacement during or after intense exercise helps maintain balance.

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in.guerreroTL2 Moderator20 Aug 2024#50
fr.translation_mo, post #19: post #18 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit. Sodium: losing weight involves losing some sodium. Electrolyte drinks or salty foods help maintain sodium balance. Very low sodium intake on these compounds raises orthostatic symptoms risk. Go to post

This follows post #47 rather than contradicting it.

Orthostatic symptoms: dizziness on standing after lying down can indicate dehydration or electrolyte depletion. Increasing fluids, salt, and potassium usually resolves it.

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KForsbergTL2Member21 Aug 2024 · edited#51

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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k.kimaniTL2 Moderator22 Aug 2024#52
septum_check, post #5: Worth separating two things that the opening post runs together. Potassium: similar to sodium; losing weight involves some potassium loss. Bananas, sweet potatoes, and other potassium-rich foods help. Severe depletion is rare but symptomatic (weakness, palpitations). Go to post

On post #48 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Constipation and hydration: dehydration makes constipation worse. Increasing fluid intake is the first intervention for constipation alongside other measures.

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f.fenwickTL3Regular22 Aug 2024#53

Exercise and electrolyte losses: sweating during exercise increases sodium and potassium losses. Electrolyte replacement during or after intense exercise helps maintain balance.

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l.aguirreTL2 Moderator23 Aug 2024#54

Orthostatic symptoms: dizziness on standing after lying down can indicate dehydration or electrolyte depletion. Increasing fluids, salt, and potassium usually resolves it.

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r.friskTL2 Moderator23 Aug 2024#55

post #54 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Lab testing: if symptoms are severe or persistent, checking electrolytes and minerals (sodium, potassium, magnesium, calcium) and interpreting them in context of losses during weight loss is reasonable.

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h.ferrariTL2 Moderator24 Aug 2024#56
h.lindqvist, post #12: Water intoxication: drinking excessive water (more than a few liters per day for extended time) without electrolyte replacement can cause hyponatremia. This is rare but serious. Balance fluid with electrolytes. Go to post

Worth separating two things that post #52 runs together.

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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e.lehtinenTL2 Moderator25 Aug 2024#57
a.adeyemi, post #24: Picking up post #21: that is the part I would want checked first. Potassium: similar to sodium; losing weight involves some potassium loss. Bananas, sweet potatoes, and other potassium-rich foods help. Severe depletion is rare but symptomatic (weakness, palpitations). Go to post

Magnesium: deficiency during weight loss is common and symptoms (fatigue, muscle cramps) are nonspecific. Supplementation is inexpensive and low-risk if needed.

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b.aaltoTL225 Aug 2024#58
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bac_waterTL2Regular26 Aug 2024#59

post #58 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Constipation and hydration: dehydration makes constipation worse. Increasing fluid intake is the first intervention for constipation alongside other measures.

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s.zamoraTL2 Moderator26 Aug 2024#60

Fluid intake: baseline needs increase with gastrointestinal effects and exercise. Thirst is not a reliable guide during appetite suppression. Drinking regularly (not just when thirsty) is prudent.

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