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The "under review" status pill and when a moderator applies it — a second dataset posts 31–55

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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j.falkTL2 Moderator20 Aug 2025#31

Picking up post #28: that is the part I would want checked first.

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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VPoulsenTL3Regular21 Aug 2025#32

How to cite a preprint: author last name, first initial, et al. Title. Server name [preprint]. Posted date. Doi. Include the server name and note that it is a preprint.

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k.asanteTL2 Moderator21 Aug 2025 · edited#33
e.silva, post #18: Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post

Check whether it was later published: searching for the preprint's first author and keywords in PubMed might find a published version. The published version is the stronger citation if it exists.

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crossref_checkTL3Wiki editor21 Aug 2025#34
taper_file, post #26: Always label it as a preprint in any discussion. A preprint is not a published trial and it is not settled knowledge. Use it for hypothesis generation and for understanding emerging evidence, not for drawing definitive conclusions. Go to post

What changes between preprint and publication: authors respond to reviewer comments, re-analyse data, correct errors found in peer review, and sometimes report different results from updated analyses. The published version is not the same as the preprint.

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b.friskTL2 Moderator22 Aug 2025#35

This follows post #32 rather than contradicting it.

Server repositories: medRxiv for medicine, bioRxiv for biology. Preprints on these servers are time-stamped and have DOIs even if they are later published elsewhere. Citing the preprint with its DOI is appropriate while noting it is unpublished.

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buffer_sheetTL3Regular22 Aug 2025#36

I read post #34 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Peer review as a filter: published papers have survived a review process that rejects many submissions. Preprints have not. Neither guarantees correctness, but publication history is a difference worth noting.

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i.wojcikTL222 Aug 2025#37
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bench_entryTL3Regular23 Aug 2025#38
c.kuusela, post #25: Two things before anyone answers the substance. First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound. Go to post

Server repositories: medRxiv for medicine, bioRxiv for biology. Preprints on these servers are time-stamped and have DOIs even if they are later published elsewhere. Citing the preprint with its DOI is appropriate while noting it is unpublished.

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c.vasquezTL2 Moderator23 Aug 2025#39
n.moreau, post #8: This follows post #5 rather than contradicting it. What changes between preprint and publication: authors respond to reviewer comments, re-analyse data, correct errors found in peer review, and sometimes report different results from updated analyses. The published version is not the same as the preprint. Go to post

Do not build anything on a preprint that you would mind rebuilding: if the preprint later changes substantially in revision or shows different results when published, your reasoning based on the preprint needs to be revised.

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customs_ledgerTL3Regular23 Aug 2025 · edited#40

Preprints for speed: some important preliminary findings are posted as preprints to disseminate quickly. That speed is useful but comes at the cost of not yet having survived peer review. The trade-off is real.

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RidgewayTL3Regular23 Aug 2025 · edited#41

I read post #39 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

How to cite a preprint: author last name, first initial, et al. Title. Server name [preprint]. Posted date. Doi. Include the server name and note that it is a preprint.

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s.demirTL2 Moderator24 Aug 2025#42

Peer review as a filter: published papers have survived a review process that rejects many submissions. Preprints have not. Neither guarantees correctness, but publication history is a difference worth noting.

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CFairweatherTL124 Aug 2025#43
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a.cabreraTL2 Moderator24 Aug 2025#44

post #43 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Discussing preprints in this community: bring them in for early discussion, label them clearly as preprints, invite peer critique, and be prepared for the discussion to differ if the paper is later published differently.

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h.nicolaidesTL3Regular25 Aug 2025#45

Check whether it was later published: searching for the preprint's first author and keywords in PubMed might find a published version. The published version is the stronger citation if it exists.

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in.guerreroTL2 Moderator25 Aug 2025#46
buffer_sheet, post #36: I read post #34 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Peer review as a filter: published papers have survived a review process that rejects many submissions. Preprints have not. Neither guarantees correctness, but publication history is a difference worth noting. Go to post

Always label it as a preprint in any discussion. A preprint is not a published trial and it is not settled knowledge. Use it for hypothesis generation and for understanding emerging evidence, not for drawing definitive conclusions.

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endpoint_lineTL3Regular25 Aug 2025#47
a.molnar, post #27: Unrefereed work is not worthless. A great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. It is also the case that the version appearing in a journal frequently has different numbers, and the changes are not random — they tend to be in the direction of a smaller effect and a more careful claim. Go to post

On post #43 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Unrefereed work is not worthless. A great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. It is also the case that the version appearing in a journal frequently has different numbers, and the changes are not random — they tend to be in the direction of a smaller effect and a more careful claim.

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i.dumitruTL2 Moderator25 Aug 2025#48

post #47 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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nl_translatorTL2Translator · NL26 Aug 2025#49

Unrefereed work is not worthless. A great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. It is also the case that the version appearing in a journal frequently has different numbers, and the changes are not random — they tend to be in the direction of a smaller effect and a more careful claim.

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b.dumitruTL226 Aug 2025#50
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e.ferreiraTL3Regular26 Aug 2025#51

post #50 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Peer review as a filter: published papers have survived a review process that rejects many submissions. Preprints have not. Neither guarantees correctness, but publication history is a difference worth noting.

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a.jansenTL2 Moderator27 Aug 2025#52

How to cite a preprint: author last name, first initial, et al. Title. Server name [preprint]. Posted date. Doi. Include the server name and note that it is a preprint.

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titration_diaryTL3Regular27 Aug 2025#53

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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i.guerreroTL2 Moderator27 Aug 2025#54
am.wikstrom, post #21: On post #17 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Unrefereed work is not worthless. A great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. It is also the case that the version appearing in a journal frequently has different numbers, and the changes are not random — they tend to be in the direction of a smaller effect… Go to post

Coming back to post #52, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Preprints for speed: some important preliminary findings are posted as preprints to disseminate quickly. That speed is useful but comes at the cost of not yet having survived peer review. The trade-off is real.

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bac_waterTL2Regular27 Aug 2025#55
h.nicolaides, post #45: Check whether it was later published: searching for the preprint's first author and keywords in PubMed might find a published version. The published version is the stronger citation if it exists. Go to post

What changes between preprint and publication: authors respond to reviewer comments, re-analyse data, correct errors found in peer review, and sometimes report different results from updated analyses. The published version is not the same as the preprint.

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