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Second pass at: Regression to the mean in progress reports posts 61–76

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k.dahlbergTL2 Moderator19 Feb 2025#61

Regression to the mean: if you select people with extreme values (very high or very low), their next measurement is often less extreme just by chance. This can look like a treatment effect when it is just statistics.

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a.reyesTL4 Admin20 Feb 2025#62

Power and sample size: a study might be too small to detect a real effect (low power). Sample size calculations help determine how many participants are needed to detect an effect of a given magnitude.

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n.silvaTL2 Moderator21 Feb 2025#63
k.dahlberg, post #61: Regression to the mean: if you select people with extreme values (very high or very low), their next measurement is often less extreme just by chance. This can look like a treatment effect when it is just statistics. Go to post

Absence of evidence and evidence of absence: if a study is small and finds no effect, that is absence of evidence, not evidence of absence. A larger study might find an effect that a small study missed.

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owen.bradyTL4 Moderator22 Feb 2025#64
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Picking up post #61: that is the part I would want checked first.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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h.mbekiTL2 Moderator23 Feb 2025#65

Effect sizes: the magnitude of a difference, not just whether it is statistically significant. A difference that is significant (p<0.05) might be too small to matter. A large effect might not be significant if sample size is small.

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a.lindholmTL224 Feb 2025#66
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b.oseiTL2 Moderator25 Feb 2025#67
am.wikstrom, post #6: post #5 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. Power and sample size: a study might be too small to detect a real effect (low power). Sample size calculations help determine how many participants are needed to detect an effect of a given magnitude. Go to post

I read post #65 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Regression to the mean: if you select people with extreme values (very high or very low), their next measurement is often less extreme just by chance. This can look like a treatment effect when it is just statistics.

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k.radichTL2 Moderator26 Feb 2025#68
Buchholz, post #58: Absence of evidence and evidence of absence: if a study is small and finds no effect, that is absence of evidence, not evidence of absence. A larger study might find an effect that a small study missed. Go to post

This follows post #65 rather than contradicting it.

Confounding: a third variable explains an apparent association. In randomised data, randomisation balances confounders. In observational data, confounders can be adjusted for but unknown ones cannot.

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r.bruunTL2 Moderator27 Feb 2025#69

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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sourced_claimsTL3Regular27 Feb 2025#70

post #69 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

P-values and significance: p<0.05 means the data would be surprising if the null hypothesis were true, not that the null hypothesis is false. A non-significant p-value does not mean "no effect".

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s.poulsenTL3Regular28 Feb 2025#71

Picking up post #68: that is the part I would want checked first.

Number needed to treat: how many people need to be treated to prevent one bad outcome or achieve one good outcome. More intuitive than relative risk reduction.

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e.krastevTL2 Moderator1 Mar 2025#72
n.silva, post #63: Absence of evidence and evidence of absence: if a study is small and finds no effect, that is absence of evidence, not evidence of absence. A larger study might find an effect that a small study missed. Go to post

Coming back to post #70, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Relative risk and odds ratios: both compare the rate in one group to the rate in another. Relative risk is easier to understand. Odds ratios are standard in many analyses but can be misinterpreted.

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e.mikkelsenTL2Member2 Mar 2025#73

Confidence intervals: rather than a single point estimate, a range of plausible values. A narrow interval means precise measurement; a wide interval means measurement is imprecise. Wider intervals (more uncertainty) are honest about limitation.

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e.tammTL2 Moderator3 Mar 2025#74

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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VThorvaldsenTL3Regular4 Mar 2025 · edited#75

Multiplicity and multiple comparisons: if you test many hypotheses, the chance of finding a false positive by random chance increases. That is why pre-specifying the primary hypothesis matters.

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i.brobergTL2 Moderator5 Mar 2025#76

I read post #74 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Effect sizes: the magnitude of a difference, not just whether it is statistically significant. A difference that is significant (p<0.05) might be too small to matter. A large effect might not be significant if sample size is small.

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