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Deletion sequences: expected mass shifts by residue — the long version

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d.bakkerTL2 Moderator1 Jul 2026#1

On the subject in the title: Deletion sequences: expected mass shifts by residue — the long version Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Working through the identity arithmetic and I would like it checked.

semaglutide has a monoisotopic mass close to 4113.6 Da. On an electrospray instrument I would expect to see the multiply charged series rather than the intact singly charged ion, so for the doubly charged species I calculate (4113.6 + 2 x 1.00728) / 2, and for the triply charged the analogous expression.

The observed values in the report sit within a few ppm of those. My question is what that actually establishes, because I have seen people treat a mass match as a purity result and I do not think it is one.

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n.abernathyTL3Analytical chemist3 Jul 2026#2

Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated.

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s.cabreraTL2 Moderator5 Jul 2026#3
d.bakker, post #1: On the subject in the title: Deletion sequences: expected mass shifts by residue — the long version Working notes rather than a conclusion. Working through the identity arithmetic and I would like it checked. semaglutide has a monoisotopic mass close to 4113.6 Da. On an electrospray instrument I would expect to see the multiply charged… Go to post

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

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PharmNotes_WhitfieldTL4Pharmacist6 Jul 2026#4

Worth separating two things that post #3 runs together.

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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e.halonenTL2 Moderator7 Jul 2026#5

Picking up post #2: that is the part I would want checked first.

Oxidation at methionine and tryptophan: adds 16 per oxygen. Usually elutes earlier. Oxidation is common in storage, especially if the solution is exposed to light or if antioxidants are not present.

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journalclub_wrenTL3Regular9 Jul 2026#6
d.bakker, post #1: On the subject in the title: Deletion sequences: expected mass shifts by residue — the long version Working notes rather than a conclusion. Working through the identity arithmetic and I would like it checked. semaglutide has a monoisotopic mass close to 4113.6 Da. On an electrospray instrument I would expect to see the multiply charged… Go to post

Coming back to post #4, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage.

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h.agyemanTL2 Moderator10 Jul 2026#7

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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dietitian_hollisTL3Dietitian11 Jul 2026#8

Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

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s.vukovicTL2 Moderator12 Jul 2026#9

Incomplete deprotection: mass higher by the protecting group mass. Usually markedly later eluting. A synthesis artifact from incomplete removal of protecting groups.

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DSakamotoTL3Regular13 Jul 2026#10

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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a.ilungaTL2 Moderator14 Jul 2026#11

Acetate content: counter-ion content. Trifluoroacetate or acetate from the salt form of the peptide. Affects mass calculations and should be stated on a complete certificate.

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coldchain_liuTL3Regular15 Jul 2026#12

post #11 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Residual solvents: traces of solvents used in purification. These are usually tested by gas chromatography, not by HPLC. A specification for residual solvents should be stated separately from the purity.

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logbook_erinTL3Regular17 Jul 2026 · edited#14
n.abernathy, post #2: Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated. Go to post

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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k.pereiraTL2 Moderator18 Jul 2026#15

On post #11 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Related substances: compounds chemically related to the target peptide but not the target peptide itself. The standard method separates them and reports them as area percent. How related they can be before they exceed specification is a regulatory question.

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maintenance_modeTL3Regular19 Jul 2026#16

post #15 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis.

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p.krastevTL2 Moderator20 Jul 2026#17

Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

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r.venkatesanTL3Wiki editor21 Jul 2026#18
PharmNotes_Whitfield, post #4: Worth separating two things that post #3 runs together. Two things before anyone answers the substance. First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound. Go to post

Incomplete deprotection: mass higher by the protecting group mass. Usually markedly later eluting. A synthesis artifact from incomplete removal of protecting groups.

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c.tullochTL2 Moderator21 Jul 2026#19
n.abernathy, post #2: Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated. Go to post

Worth separating two things that post #15 runs together.

Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated.

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KLindqvistTL4 Moderator22 Jul 2026#20

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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g.tammTL2 Moderator23 Jul 2026 · edited#21
c.tulloch, post #19: Worth separating two things that post #15 runs together. Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated. Go to post

Residual solvents: traces of solvents used in purification. These are usually tested by gas chromatography, not by HPLC. A specification for residual solvents should be stated separately from the purity.

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NorringtonTL3Regular24 Jul 2026#22

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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e.kuipersTL2 Moderator25 Jul 2026#23

Picking up post #20: that is the part I would want checked first.

Related substances: compounds chemically related to the target peptide but not the target peptide itself. The standard method separates them and reports them as area percent. How related they can be before they exceed specification is a regulatory question.

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lyophil_marginTL3Regular26 Jul 2026#24

Disulfide formation: if a peptide contains cysteine, it can form disulfide bonds with itself or with other molecules. Under oxidising conditions multiple species appear. Reducing conditions (like DTT) convert them back.

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m.yildizTL2 Moderator27 Jul 2026#25
KLindqvist, post #20: For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use. Go to post

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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taper_fileTL3Regular27 Jul 2026#26
n.abernathy, post #2: Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated. Go to post

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

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